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Posted by DeepLogin 12 hours ago

Running a law firm on Free software(decoded.legal)
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xtiansimon 8 hours ago|
Curious what money software they were using:

Invoicing and tracking payments: InvoicePlane

Time tracking: Kimai

But no ERP? I presume their accountant is doing the books then?

balderdash 7 hours ago|
Gnu cash?
99harry 8 hours ago||
My biggest concern is having only one DevOps person. What happens if you get sick or are unavailable? You still need someone with around 5 years of DevOps experience. Being understaffed at critical moments can easily lead to losing customers. Also, how many employees and customers do you have? Do major clients, such as corporations or banks, require security certifications or specific processes? I think customers need to feel they can trust a company that is large enough and capable of taking responsibility, rather than a one-person company.
bazzargh 6 hours ago||
That's a weird comment. It's a small business with a static website that mainly runs over email/phone/signal. I'm not sure (speaking as a devops person with decades of experience) what a devops person would even do there; does a freelance artist need devops? Or a cat cafe?

You then ask how many employees they have, suggesting it's a one person company...I mean, it's right there on the website. It's Neil and Sandra, a husband and wife team. https://decoded.legal/diversity/ . They've been running successfully for five years, suggesting your concerns are unfounded.

99harry 6 hours ago||
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alansaber 6 hours ago||
This is common with solo practitioners. Sometimes you have to take weeks, months off, or suspend your practice. The answer would be referrals/your network, but obviously, in bad circumstances you can't always offer a soft landing to your clients.
WillAdams 7 hours ago||
Surprised that LyX wasn't in the running as a way to gain access to the power of (La)TeX with a familiar graphical front-end.
spapas82 7 hours ago||
My gf is a lawyer with a single-person office and the only software she uses is a word document (advanced from an A4 paper) to write outstanding issues, next appointments, advances etc. As can be understood not very technical.

Could you recommend me a way to gently introduce some kind of software/automation to her office?

TIA

heresie-dabord 7 hours ago||
She is comfortable typing in MS Word and she uses a browser (assumed). Start her using a Wiki with Markdown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_software

The browser gives viewing, screenshotting, and PDF downloading/viewing for free.

skeeter2020 7 hours ago||
MD is pretty simple, but why would a lawyer want to learn a limited,presentation-oriented syntax? And a wiki? Both of these decisions would make red lining a new, unpleasant adventure, something every lawyer I know does A LOT.
Hackbraten 4 hours ago||
Highly relevant: On the Immortality of Microsoft Word [0] (and the HN discussion [1]).

[0]: https://theredline.versionstory.com/p/on-the-immortality-of-...

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46313518

EsotericAlgo 3 hours ago|||
My girlfriend is also a lawyer with a single-person office (well a part-time legal assistant).

I’d try to learn a bit more about her workflow. My partner has a contract with the state, cyber insurance, and has some records retention requirements which inform a lot of the technology. As an example discovery for some cases can run 100gbs and require 10 years of retention. She has to file a monthly report with very specific data requirements and we’re working on the extract out of the matter management because it doesn’t support an effective-as-of for the various fields which is needed.

I’ve found a good place to start is with how email and calendaring is used and implementing more security. Presuming she’s using hosted email (m365/gmail) or similar.

Maybe start with her calendar especially if she’s doing it on paper even more so if she’s using that to drive any client contact.

bix6 7 hours ago|||
Give her Claude and show her how to ask Claude how to do things. My wife uses it to write mini scripts now for all the annoying repetitive tasks she has. Zero programming background.
johndhi 7 hours ago||
As a lawyer who vibe codes using Claude code all of the time and believes it's the highest value case... I'm going to disagree with this suggestion.

If she never uses ai at work at all, start with something dead simple: -do research with it -put a large corpus of documents into LLM context and ask questions of it

That's probably where I'd start.

bix6 7 hours ago||
Fair although I’m surprised lawyers can load privileged info into Claude? But I guess at this point Claude just gets all the worlds data haha
dghlsakjg 5 hours ago|||
A large corpus of documents does not have to mean privileged info. Put all of the public documents from a case in there and ask it about a judges reasoning.

Honestly that wouldn’t be a terrible product: Pull in all of a judges written judgements or stated logic about their rulings and preemptively craft your case around their biases.

alansaber 6 hours ago|||
AFAIK no state level organisation has sanctioned someone for this. You can opt-out of data collection, which some practitioners think is good enough to satisfying their professional liability- risk tolerance depends on the individual (this is not advice, just my observation!)
mmooss 5 hours ago|||
It's not so gentle, but lawyers in the US have told me that their malpractice insurance requires them to have practice management software - calendar, document management, case management, customer management, billing and accounting.

Find a web-hosted practice management system, start with the piece she finds most valuable and easy to use (maybe a calendar?).

NoMoreNicksLeft 13 minutes ago||
Westlaw isn't software?
nairboon 4 hours ago||
What's the free software recommendation for accounting? GnuCash?
2Gkashmiri 5 hours ago||
Lawyer here.

I have been extensively using LibreOffice in my court drafting, research, report writings and it has helped.. Over the years i have seen the progression of software, bugs I reported having been fixed in 2-3-5 releases always makes me happy.

People hate it for reasons that feel wrong.

They want a "mirror" of word, that's... Not going to happen, at least not in the UX department.

For compatibility, it is being improved iteratively.

I am on the fence for wordcraft by storytold for now.

That said, I do self host email using mailinabox.

I do use KDE neon for my own machine.

I have to use some business software which are windows based so I have to use that.. I just rdp into the machine and it works.

I don't use collaborative software because most of the time it's just me.

komali2 6 hours ago||
This is a fun blog idea, I'm going to steal it. I've been running a software engineering co-op for the last 5 years using only self hosted and FOSS software (outside of our email server and discord).

The bulk of it is run through ERPnext, which handles timesheets, invoices (client and member side), and accounting. We built some modules for ERPnext to make that as automated as possible, some of which I've finally got together this week: https://github.com/508-dev/erp_rules https://github.com/508-dev/books_health I used to use Crater for accounting, but it could only handle very basic accounting, so I switched to GnuCash, which I found too complicated but also too difficult to collaborate with, thus ERPnext.

We run member application management and BD pipeline through EspoCRM. Outline for wiki. Authentik for identity provider. Keila for newsletter emails. Vaultwarden for password management. Docuseal in place of Docusign. Nextcloud for basically all Google Drive / Docs / Calendar features, though it's quite slow in comparison. Coolify as a generic PAAS for MVPs or random member projects. Cal.com for appointments. Oh, to be fair, I still just route those to Google Meet.

I wish we could get a self hosted Discord alternative, however I found Matrix to be too unintuitive of a UX, and member participation was plummeting.

I've given a couple talks on self hosting and FOSS. Especially in the age of LLMs, I think it's very viable to move away from expensive SaaS. Just this week I had claude adding a ton of automations to our ERP, which probably isn't as possible for proprietary SaaS. Being able to straight up clone the codebase down and read/modify it directly makes for some interesting possibilities that we can then just as easily deploy ourselves since we self host. Using VPSs

rvz 2 hours ago||
Interesting.

To the lawyers, they can use software being available for free both as in for $0 and freedom as in libre (including choosing to not pay for it and not being obligated to pay developers at all) while their service of legal advice is not free and always costs money.

Guess who wins here? (Hint: It isn't the volunteer open source developer)

wtetzner 1 hour ago|
> Guess who wins here? (Hint: It isn't the volunteer open source developer)

Why not? Do you think open source developers all have the same goals? Do you think they don't like it when people use their software?

gadders 3 hours ago||
"I'm a mechanic and I hand forge new spanners every time I work on a car."

Cool story bro, but surely your time is worth too much to spend it fiddling about linux and command lines.

wtetzner 1 hour ago|
But it's not worth too much to deal with crappy proprietary software?

I know a lot of open source software is a pain in the ass, but so is a lot of proprietary software. You use what you know, understand, and can support.

> "I'm a mechanic and I hand forge new spanners every time I work on a car."

This is a bad analogy. It's not like he's writing new software every time he has to do something. It's more like using tools that your machinist friends built.

obummer 8 hours ago|
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