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Posted by speckx 10 hours ago

Microsoft requiring DMARC now or just us?(list.sys4.de)
12 points | 7 comments
soahc 10 minutes ago|
There is another issue that we hit a few months ago which might be related/unrelated. But the total time for Microsoft to lookup your DKIM record and get an answer can't be longer than 500ms or your DKIM fails, their answer is to use faster DNS servers. You'd think 500ms is heaps of time, but if you it include the time to do the NS lookups to see what server to talk to, etc. We were having issue where sending to hotmail/msn from the same account to the same hotmail account would bounce 50% of the time.. It depended on which MS server accepted the incoming SMTP.
proactivesvcs 3 hours ago||
There's some discussion of this on Mastodon, started by Mythic Beasts, who spotted it yesterday:

https://social.mythic-beasts.com/@beasts/117569497236204746

jared_stewart 6 hours ago||
No, this seems like a big thing that silently happened in the last 24 hours without announcement.

Since roughly November 5, Outlook Hotmail, Live and MSN are rejecting some mail from domains without DMARC records.

This includes low volume domains with passing SPF and DKIM results.

The specific bounce we are seeing is "550 5.7.1 Message rejected: Message lacks SPF/DKIM/DMARC Auth Records".

This is a different outcome from the high volume sender rule (5.7.515) which is part of why this looks like an unannounced extension. I haven't seen anything from Microsoft confirming any change.

The current fix is minimal - just add a DMARC record of something like `v=DMARC1; p=none;` if a domain already has a record though, leave it alone.

jared_stewart 3 hours ago|
I've baked a minimal check into my service at https://alesiansecurity.com/try?tab=deliverability if you'd like to see whether your property might be impacted or fixed
coolestguy 1 hour ago||
With how easy spam is now with AI, I welcome the change fully. I’m surprised anyone who reads/posts here wouldn’t have spf and dmarc set up already
simonklitj 4 hours ago||
Same for us, yes. Error messages started popping up November 5th.
Avamander 2 hours ago|
About time.