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Posted by krthr 4 hours ago

Person of Interest(krthr.co)
211 points | 132 commentspage 3
comrade1234 4 hours ago|
I enjoyed this show a lot and I was looking forward to westworld as a continuation of the story - I wanted to see what Nolan would do with the story when the AIs are corporeal, but ultimately westworld was a disappointment, spending too much of the story in the fantasy world.
cluckindan 4 hours ago||
Did you watch all four seasons?
sam_lowry_ 3 hours ago||
Should have stopped at 1st.
croes 3 hours ago||
I liked the more sci-fi heavy later seasons
jrm4 3 hours ago||
What?

Just your last clause was a weird one, if you do watch all four seasons. This is a tiny bit of a spoiler, but the problem was closely related to what you say. They didn't spend much time AT all in the "transition" to an AI infested world, but instead, well, skipped A LOT.

gnfargbl 3 hours ago||
Why is this blog post written in two slightly different but semantically equivalent ways, with a tearline between the two versions?

I feel like I'm being A/B tested by a broken AI.

ACS_Solver 3 hours ago||
It's written in English first, with a Spanish version after. Sounds like you have some auto-translation thing going in the browser.
oskarpearson 3 hours ago||
They are in two different languages. Have you got some sort of auto-translate feature enabled in your browser, perhaps?
gnfargbl 3 hours ago||
Ha! It was indeed auto-translate. Thank you; I thought I was losing my mind for a moment there. Apparently I'm so used to every web page being covered in popups and banners that my brain filters them entirely.
LogicFailsMe 1 hour ago||
The show was a decade ahead of the world, starting out seemingly as a clone of The OG Equalizer, but which eventually became a war between two AGIs, one benevolent (although it absolutely did not start out that way), the other 100% EA-aligned longtermist before any of this was mainstream.
le-mark 2 hours ago||
I really liked this show. Ultimately it was very formulaic and could have done a lot more with the concepts it revealed. It painted a future where ai (along with total surveillance) could benefit people in deeply meaningful ways; matchmaker, fulfilling work and daily task, coordination, purpose and guidance. And the dangers of all those used for control.
andylynch 2 hours ago||
It’s possibly the second best show involving Michael Emerson as a scientist turning against the controlling tech-cabal he once worked for, aided by a more lethal human companion and a very good dog.

(and it’s partly the same dog too)

le-mark 1 minute ago|
And what other show would that be?
bilsbie 3 hours ago||
This show is the epitome of “you have to watch a few seasons before it gets good”. (Which if you think about it is an absurd thing to tell someone. Ie Invest 24 hours of your time into this show before you decide)

When I watched it I thought the privacy model the AI used was dumb but it kind of makes some sense.

V__ 3 hours ago||
It starts as a case-of-the-week type of show with a bit of AI backstory before it changes in the later season to a more overarching plot. I think this is one of the reasons it became so good, because it eased you in.
jasomill 1 hour ago||
Yes, the entire first season feels like a backdoor pilot for the show Nolan really wanted to make.
V__ 16 minutes ago||
I can't find it right now, but I seem to remember having read a comment a decade or so ago which confirmed this.
emil-lp 3 hours ago||
I thought it was good from the first episode!
Bl4cksmith 4 hours ago||
One of the most interesting details I've found to be are the scenes that show why AI system alignment is difficult
yewenjie 4 hours ago||
I don't what HN's opinion of Mr. Robot is, but some of you will definitely like it.

It's not really about hacking, but it depicted technology and hacking in an extraordinarily level of correctness.

matsemann 3 hours ago||
I absolutely can't stand shows where the protagonist has to deal with their own self inflicted issues due to drugs. Maybe because I'm sheltered, or maybe it's a bigger issue in the US than where I live, but I just can't relate at all, and just get annoyed that it's used to add conflicts to a story where I just feels it sidetracks. Like, just get on with it.

As an aside, same with cheating in movies/series. While it's probably more common than I know it to be where I live, it possibly cannot be as ubiquitous as American medias (and social medias) make it out to be. Again, just an annoyance detracting from the story, and again can't relate. I had to quit "Making a Murderer" over it. At some point in season two or something, absolutely everyone in the main cast were involved in cheating. All the students, the teacher, a policeman, some lawyers. Like, what the hell.

Sorry about the rant. But I really really wanted to like Mr Robot. But having tried to get into it twice I'm a bit miffed.

stalfie 3 hours ago|||
It is arguably a very uninspired literary device to set up conflicts, but it is unfortunately not exactly unrealistic. Estimates are that more than a third of western society, probably closer to half, meet the DSM-5 criteria for substance use disorder at some point in their lives. Roughly a little less than a third will cheat on their partner during their lifetime, closer to half will have their partner cheat on them. These numbers are after a rough fact check courtesy of whatever Gemini model is in Google search, my own rough sense and knowledge of the literature is just that it's very common.

Uninspired as they might be as literary devices, drug abuse and cheating are common themes in actual human existence.

detourdog 2 hours ago||
Not trying to normalize usage in anyway. I just wonder if a behavior is well represented in a society is it still a disorder?

The behavior while under the influence should get labeled but the usage might be normal. People being angry or not taking responsibility deserves a label from the DSM. If a large population is ingesting things this might be normal.

cluckindan 2 hours ago||
It might be that some sort of intoxication is the normal and abstaining from intoxication is the thing that’s normalized.
yewenjie 1 hour ago||||
Spoiler: it's not drugs, you have to watch it till the end, and I mean it, really until the final season. I can't say much more than this without spoiling the very heart of the show.
jdeisenberg 1 hour ago||
In the final season, Mr. Robot does some fairly ambitious episodes. One of them is a continuous tracking shot (or made to appear as one) that goes through the entire episode. Another one has no spoken dialogue for the majority of the episode. A very well-written show. And yes, you really do need to see it all the way through.
lucasoshiro 2 hours ago|||
> As an aside, same with cheating in movies/series

As an aside from an aside, I find very interesting how every couple of main characters in movies has couple problems (cheating, lost of interest, one of them don't want to engage the other, etc). Taking a look at my list of recently watched movies (including very diverse ones, like Godfather, KPop Demon Hunters, Whiplash, Sunset Boulevard, Up, etc) and I cant't find a single one that we don't question whether the couple will stay together...

Actually, the only two exceptions that I remember are Marty/Jennifer from Back to the Future and Ferris/Sloane from Ferris Bueller's Day Off...

amiga386 4 hours ago|||
https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/whats-your-a...
pmlnr 4 hours ago|||
The first episode is genius.

Then it becomes a completely different show.

So I love the first episode, and I was left really empty in the later seasons. It's definitely not for me, but I hold on to it believing it'll be different. It wasn't.

See also the very last episode of Ragnarok (Netflix), which absolutely trashes the whole show.

nbaksalyar 1 hour ago|||
> It's definitely not for me

Fair enough! :) However,

> it becomes a completely different show

in terms of setting expectations, maybe. But overall, the surprising thing about Mr Robot is that it stays very consistent throughout all 4 seasons. It becomes especially apparent if you rewatch season 1 after finishing the show: there is a lot of foreshadowing that's really easy to miss.

gcanyon 2 hours ago|||
> Ragnarok

Has any show, EVER, betrayed its fans, its premise, its characters, and just all the evidence and events portrayed previously than that show?

(Spoilers) How many times did we the audience see other characters, alone, experience supernatural things? e.g. Loki with the midguard serpent?

The only way for that ending to make sense is if the company had accidentally released a chemical that gave the entire town psychosis.

As written it was bad, and the writers/directors should be ashamed.

Consider this your warning, anyone who happens to see it on Netflix: DO NOT WATCH.

jrm4 3 hours ago||
Hehe, it kind of reminds me of an extreme (classic) Law and Order in that regard, but for hacking/tech.

Wildly unrealistic facts and how people are, like the janitor who finds eight bodies in a cellar talking to the cops like it happens everyday, but also gets nearly every tiny bit of New York law technically correct.

insidiousa 4 hours ago||
https://www.netflix.com/watch/70296223
totetsu 3 hours ago|
looking at my apple social graph on my hdd as seen here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50403097

Im feeing the premis of this show is not so far off..

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