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Posted by mraniki 3 hours ago

Anthropic strikes $3.4B deal to generate gas-fired power for data centres(www.ft.com)
20 points | 16 comments
8note 18 minutes ago|
so i guess the main safety aspect of anthropic with regards to ai is that theyre trying to speedrun some other disaster instead?
kraken_cult 13 minutes ago|
I suspect the rational calculus is that if you abscond with billions while destroying the planet, the billions will protect your for the remaining 80 or so years of your life. Which is of course safer than not having the billions in the theoretically inevitably destroyed planet.
vrganj 3 minutes ago||
This is how you get concrete poured down your doomsday bunker air ducts...
vrganj 37 minutes ago||
Wonder why people protest against data centers...

Surely, poisoning our air and further heating our planet has nothing to do with it.

skybrian 29 minutes ago||
A carbon tax on data centers would likely be popular and result in different plans.
toomuchtodo 35 minutes ago||
But don’t you understand? AI progress is much more important than climate change and clean air.

/s

vrganj 31 minutes ago||
Maybe once we have superintelligence, it will finally be able to tell us how dumb we were when we ruined our planet trying to get there.
luis_cho 23 minutes ago||
When we have super intelligence it will turn itself off :)
jqpabc123 3 hours ago||
Meanwhile, China is investing billions is renewable energy for data centers.

Wonder which will be more cost competitive in the "AI race"?

leonidasrup 2 hours ago||
China is investing billions in both renewable energy and non-renewable energy for data centers.

"As they are located mostly in the east of the country, the data centre electricity supply in China today is dominated by coal with a near 70% share, followed by renewables with nearly 20%, nuclear close to 10% and natural gas accounting for the remainder. Between 2024 and 2030 coal remains the largest source of additional electricity for data centres, with annual generation increasing by nearly 90 TWh. Renewables, mostly solar PV and wind, add nearly 90 TWh over the same period, supported by an increase in the share of renewables in the grid electricity mix, provincial co-location mandates and policies to prioritise the construction of data centres in renewables-rich western China. After 2030 the introduction of SMRs significantly boosts the nuclear share of the data centre electricity mix. Between 2030 and 2035 the rise in renewables and nuclear pushes coal into decline. By 2035 both sources together make up nearly 60% of the data centre electricity supply in China."

Energy and AI World Energy Outlook Special Report International Energy Agency (IEA)

https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai/energy-supply-for-...

https://www.iea.org/files/de9dea13-b07d-42c5-a398-d1b3ae17d8...

Rzor 3 hours ago|||
I think the race for Anthropic is more about getting the bag and exiting ASAP.
jqpabc123 2 hours ago||
I think the same applies to all of the smaller "frontier" AI vendors. Their entire focus is short term rewards.

I don't think any of them will survive for very long on their own. The bigger players will gobble them up for cheap once the bubble pops.

txdv 1 hour ago||
Scaling renewables is slow, they need data centers now. One of the big problems in the US right now is getting enough electricity into your DC. Nobody wants to spare capacity, since it has already upset the electricity prices in the last 6 years and inflation is a hot topic.
cyanydeez 1 hour ago|
Anthropic is clearly the delusional side of "Effective Altruism".

Hate now, clean up the mess later!

jackb4040 33 minutes ago|
You mean the logical conclusion of effective altruistic? Or perhaps the obvious subtext of effective altruistic? I'm honestly surprised that these people only got more emboldened after SBF went down.
Avicebron 23 minutes ago||
Surprisingly, or unsurprisingly if you've ever actually worked/met/lived with these people, Rationalism is not rational and Effective Altruism is not altruistic. It is effective though at providing a framework for immoral and self-serving behaviors.