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Posted by munro 20 hours ago

USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons(postalpro.usps.com)
697 points | 360 commentspage 4
cwt137 16 hours ago|
I see you can pay for the dataset using a USPS money order. The highest priced dataset is $150k. Can you even get a USPS money order for $150k?
teddyh 17 hours ago||

  s/offers/sells/
ulfw 7 hours ago||
US innovation at it's best again
Hnrobert42 19 hours ago||
For everyone saying it should be free, the USPS charges for services. They charge to deliver mail.

Cut them some slack. They are supposed to be budget neutral. It is difficult to do when A) they have to compete with the private sector while adhering to public sector rules and B) being sabotaged by Trump's postmaster general appointee.

pessimizer 24 minutes ago|
> They are supposed to be budget neutral.

Are they?

nukanse 18 hours ago||
If the polygon delimits a property, it could be used for drone delivery
otter-in-a-suit 18 hours ago|
Property lines are a whole other rabbit hole USPS has nothing to do with. Property lines are maintained by county/parish/... (GIS) departments and a few companies managed to aggregate them all. And they are famously inaccurate. "GIS" stands for "Get it surveyed"...
tomrod 18 hours ago||
This is huge!
kylehotchkiss 17 hours ago||
Maybe somebody should sue them into releasing a base set for free. Or maybe FOIA the files out.

USPS can charge funny money for the latest version.

tjwebbnorfolk 18 hours ago||
Even if I wanted to buy this data, I can't figure out how
quasarj 9 hours ago||
They are charging? wtf. Is this not public information?
Joker_vD 18 hours ago|
...Can someone please explain why ZIP codes are even a thing people need to bother about? Like, there's an address on the letter/parcel — that should be enough for the USPS to deliver it, right? If they use some internal classification/address grouping for better routing — fine, whatever, they can use it but surely they themselves can look it up in their internal DB quicker and more reliably than I can on some random web-site of dubious progenity?
m348e912 18 hours ago||
I assume you're asking this question in good faith. A mailing address alone is often ambiguous, eg tons of duplicate street names, people write the wrong city, and typos and missing unit numbers are common. The ZIP code doubles as a sanity check against the rest of the address. USPS will usually figure it out without one, but it takes extra time and effort. Also, a person's zip code also doubles as card verification and sales tax. Maybe the opposite question should be asked, why do we need addresses? Your residence could be defined expanding on its zip code.
colejohnson66 18 hours ago||
It made a lot of sense in the pre-internet days. Getting a human to sort mail without looking up a big list was pretty useful.
Joker_vD 11 hours ago||
No, it didn't. I admit I don't know the history of zip codes in the US, but over here the postal codes weren't a thing until the 70s when the OCR devices were introduced: the idea was that you'd write a 6-digit postal code in the weird 9-segment font in the specific place where the machine would be able to scan it, and then sort and route it automatically. Of course quite quickly it turned out that people wrote wrong postal codes, or postal codes needed to be changed, so in the end the post service started filling those themselves, and they later started printing and sticking barcodes with internal routing information onto the letters, and using those.

> Getting a human to sort mail without looking up a big list was pretty useful.

Mail gets sorted several times. At the ingress, there is a rough sorting of "okay, this one leaves the city, this one doesn't" kind, where the former ones are thrown in a large bag and sent upstream, and the latter ones get divided into delivery groups — yes, by a person looking up a list of local addresses. They don't need to have a list for the whole country, only for their city/local district, so it's not that big of a list. And not making this list of internal routing codes public has the benefits that A) that number needn't be double-checked for correctness, saving the labour, B) the list can be changed often to better suit the way the delivery routes are organized, and you don't need to notify the general public about the changes.

I'd be willing to bet $50 that USPS has some internal DB, changed very often, that they use to remap zip codes into something actually useful for both the bulk- and last-mile delivery.

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