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Posted by skittleson 9 hours ago

Smart home devices should work without the internet(docodethatmatters.com)
663 points | 235 commentspage 5
elyobo 2 hours ago|
Sounds interesting but bounced off the claudespeak.
innocent_name 6 hours ago||
I couldn't connect a matter device to my Home assistant via an Android app on GrapheneOS because it relies on Google Play Services. So much for the open standard!
dzhiurgis 5 hours ago||
And it usually does, but it’s a ton of effort. I have tons of devices, so far things that don’t work is Wyze camera and Mova (Dreame) vacuum. Midea, Tuya, Qingping, Deye, Aqara and bunch of others have Home Assistant integration over LAN and you can cut off WAN access via your router.
jon128 6 hours ago||
Richard Stallman predicted this.

You were warned.

If you accept and thus consented to a computer, or a device with a computer in it, without first verifying you can write to the media of its software, control the boot process, and will have sufficient access to that software, you get what you consented to.

And, you deserve it.

drnick1 6 hours ago||
Not sure why people are downvoting you, this is true.

My home automation rules are even simpler: home automation devices are firewalled off the Internet. If something does not work because of this, it gets returned, period. I do my research and only buy Zigbee or WiFi devices that can be hacked, so I haven't had problems so far. I also don't want any "smart" fridge, washing machine, TV, etc.

j45 6 hours ago||
The smarts to run a smart home should live inside the house like an appliance.

Something anyone can use.

sneak 3 hours ago||
Why? The internet is always on, when it’s off, you have bigger problems than your home automation not working.
skittleson 2 hours ago|
outages are the small part. the bigger one is the vendor's server going away for good, like the nest api or the internet radios mentioned in this thread. then it's not off for an hour, it's off forever. I also like project like project nomad that are really think about these issues https://www.projectnomad.us/
ricardobeat 6 hours ago||
This would have been a great presentation without the AI prose.

> Below that is the chart from a few real days: 21 opens, with spikes showing when each one happened. Most people skip this part, and it’s the part that tells me whether I left the garage open without opening an app.

seriously?

holoduke 5 hours ago||
I recently moved into a new house where I went all in with automating and measuring everything. Every single door and window has a sensor. Every single appliance: switch, light, TV, computer and devices like wasmachines, garage doors, heatpumps, invertors, ovens, air filters is made smart and connected to my home assistant. I never ever saw the ui of home assistant. Everything is done with Claude and it works absolutely perfect. It would be a fulltime job to figure everything out manually. Also many devices like our heating floor manifold do not come with a build in Ethernet or wifi connector. I extensively used AI to connect an esp directly to its board. Once you got the Rx and tx working, Claude can reverse engineer the data streams and build a driver/integration for home assistant. AI is really super awesome here. Zero need for Cloud based crap like Tuya or smart devices requiring a cloud service account.
chrisjj 5 hours ago||
> Nothing core in my house depends on a vendor’s server.

How would you know?

skittleson 2 hours ago||
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mystifyingpoi 5 hours ago||
You'd cut the access and see.
chrisjj 4 hours ago||
And ... how would you know? Faraday cage?
qsfp28 1 hour ago||
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micromacrofoot 7 hours ago|
Unless it's law or AI becomes capable of rooting every device, it will never happen, most hardware gets out of the door with minimally functional software that only covers the immediate business need.
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