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Posted by p4bl0 7 hours ago

.name Grandfathered(neil.fraser.name)
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Tepix 6 hours ago|
Vive la résistance!

Resistance is not futile.

cobbzilla 6 hours ago|
> to my lawyers Jan, Flip and Diégo who threw the book at ICANN

Resistance with a strong case and competent lawyers is not futile.

dataflow 6 hours ago||
And with a lot of money to burn.
codexon 3 hours ago||
The title of this submission is misleading. This is only for "3rd level" .name domains. The title makes it seem like normal .name domains were being deleted.
origini 3 hours ago||
I have bought my *.name domain a decade ago? Why was this ever a thing? Was there some limitation i'm to stupid to get or did one company just register some common last names?
ZeWaka 3 hours ago|
for specifically third level registrations
hoppp 2 hours ago||
Congrats!!
zamadatix 5 hours ago||
Congrats to those wanting to keep their domains! I'm surprised they went with perpetual (well, as much as anything is) support, i.e. allowing renewals and such rather than just letting it naturally expire (the initial proposal was to immediately cease these records at a given date with no clear communication on how they'd be protected or not from re-registering the upper level domains or not).
a1o 6 hours ago||
How does one register a domain under .name ? I can’t find info through search because it discards the dot no matter what I try.
delecti 6 hours ago||
Start from the TLD lists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_dom... led to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.name led to https://www.verisign.com/domain-names/name-domains
toast0 6 hours ago|||
Same as any gTLD, pick your favorite registrar and they probably support it. Give your registrar money, they'll give the registry money and boom. (more or less)

When .name was new, you may have needed to contract with the registry directly, it was an early new gTLD and I don't remember if they started with the registry/registrar split or not.

Afaik, new registrants are not able to register a third level domain, but second level domains have been available for a long time.

SahAssar 6 hours ago|||
Available under standard registrars that offer many TLDs, like inwx.com: https://www.inwx.com/en/domain/check?domain=testtest123.name...
peesem 6 hours ago||
but which support the actual third-level domains? for example, my last name is already taken as a .name domain by verisign, what if i want my firstname.lastname.name domain?
scott00 3 hours ago|||
Gandi and 007names are the only ones I'm aware of that support the third-level domains.
xigoi 5 hours ago||||
The third-level domains are still being discontinued, it’s just that people who already have one get to keep it.
mercurywells 6 hours ago||||
You'd have to try to find the contact that owns lastname.name and work out a private deal - you won't get ICANN protections though.
zamadatix 5 hours ago|||
One can't (officially) register such 3rd level domains anywhere anymore.

It's just a combination in the ambiguity of what "it discards the dot" should mean in GGP's message combined with the article already clarifying 3rd level domains are not available on .name anymore leading to a lot of confused comments.

lambda 6 hours ago||
Did you read the link?

"Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely."

They were apparently planning on shutting down the whole TLD. They will be leaving it up for existing registrants, but not allowing new registrations.

ksala_ 6 hours ago||
No, they were not planning that. This is only about 3rd level domain as the paragraph you quoted says. Every other TLD don't sell those (afaik). Normally "someone.name" would be a domain, and they would own all the subdomains. .name allowed you to register "one.someone.name" and "two.someone.name" as completely separated domains with completely separated owners. I understand why they should grandfather in existing domains but this was just madness.
lambda 6 hours ago||
Ah, fair enough. I kind of thought that third level domain registration was the whole point of the .name TLD, so I was interpreting it as shutting it down.

So the weird part then comes in: are all second level domains that have third level registrations now reserved? Do they stop being reserved if the last third level registration expires without being renewed?

toast0 5 hours ago|||
> So the weird part then comes in: are all second level domains that have third level registrations now reserved? Do they stop being reserved if the last third level registration expires without being renewed?

Yes, second level domains that overlap with a registered third level domain have never been available. Under the original proposal, once all the third level domains were dropped, the overlapping second level domains would have been available (first come, first served). I believe current practice is the second level domain becomes available if all of the third level domains expire. Registrants in other threads indicated that there's no process to have an orderly transition from being the only the registrant of a third level domain under a specific second level name to registering that second level domain ... you would have to let your current name expire and hope to catch the second level name.

duskwuff 5 hours ago||||
> I kind of thought that third level domain registration was the whole point of the .name TLD

It was initially! But there was enough demand for second-level registrations that they opened that up too (and set the stage for this whole mess).

ksala_ 6 hours ago|||
Good question. Yeah no idea - the email linked in OP says they're going to send a new proposal, I'm assuming it will cover how they're planning to handle it. And I guess that yes blocking second level domains that have a third level already registered is the pragmatic choice.
troyrollo 1 hour ago||
They are grandfathering existing third levels and existing email forwarding services. The new RSEPs will just discontinue offering the services as new services, with Verisign saying they will take responsibility for ensuring that there will always be at least one registrar who supports both.
eloto333 3 hours ago||
I want to edit this comment.
doublepg23 6 hours ago||
I've had a .name for almost a decade now and was not aware of it's history.

Shame I didn't register on my lastname .name , I had thought it was a much newer gTLD.

xydone 5 hours ago||
Certainly nice to know they would've almost certainly proceeded as normal if the concerns didn't blow up online
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