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Posted by tosh 6 hours ago

Val Town is winding down(blog.val.town)
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upmostly 2 hours ago|
I've spoken to Steve a few times and he gave great advice.

I'm sorry to hear this didn't work out for him, but there's no doubt that he'll get the next one (or maybe the one after that).

hardwaregeek 5 hours ago||
Feels like there’s an era of devtools companies coming to a close. Astro, Astral, Deno, Bun, Turso, Void Zero all got acquired. I’m guessing there’s either very compelling acquisition offers being floated or the fundraising/revenue environment isn’t as friendly?
swyx 4 hours ago||
or this is just normal startup M&A cycles and you just happened to pay attention to this one more closely
awhitty 3 hours ago||
Right, they said an era is coming to a close. Their tone’s maybe wistful but not final. M&A cycle is an expression of the same idea? New era beginning. Containers and sandboxes and “harnesses” are in. (I hate that word harness - wish we’d call them rigs or something with less questionable metaphor.)
ToucanLoucan 4 hours ago|||
Can't speak on the former but it's no secret on the latter: ALL the investor money is going into fucking AI right now, and it's suffocating anything else. Add to that the AI industry's taxing our silicon industry and we have a recipe for startup bloodbath.

For emphasis, I'm not saying fucking AI has no uses, I'm just saying I wish there was OTHER tech available to talk about too.

Onavo 5 hours ago||
Most of them are still alive and active, Deno is the exception here.
plesiv 3 hours ago||
Steve is incredibly thoughtful about the art of programming. He has written a lot of insightful commentary over the years. A highly recommended read.

Steve inspired us to build a val.town-like platform Gitlip (https://gitlip.com/) in early 2025. We quietly stopped working on it about a year ago because it was difficult to get paying customers.

koolala 4 hours ago||
We still badly need a replacement for Glitch.com. There are no free dynamic server hosts anymore.
prisonguard 3 hours ago||
Steve, I don't know whether you can read this but any chance the code can be made open source. It would greatly help me and others to extend your vision.
Jaydenaus 3 hours ago|
It's mentioned in the blog post
prisonguard 2 hours ago||
I missed it, thanks!
alabhyajindal 5 hours ago||
Sad to hear this, big fan of val.town since the early days.

I've been thinking that the idea of a cloud for personal applications makes less sense as time goes on - because that area of the market will be captured by the harnesses that alloe people to build their toy project in the first place - like how Claude can deploy your websites.

kinlan 3 hours ago||
Steve and the team at Val town were amazing. I loved the product and I also loved the team who were incredibly approachable and very community centric.

Thank you Steve

jborichevskiy 4 hours ago||
I'm gonna miss it. It was such a solid place for a v0.5 of something where I get hosting, a db, subdomains, logging, and more right off the bat.

Thank you for a wonderful service!

tinyhouse 2 hours ago||
I actually created one simple agent back then on Val Town that checks any new sign ups to my app and then posts to Slack. It was free but I've never created anything else on their platform.

I kind of liked their story and wanted to support them. Their UX wasn't great for one (back when I tried it at least). But I think the bigger problem is that the big opportunity for them was that they started early before it was crowded, and if they didn't capture a big market share then, now it's too late and impossible to compete. For agents to be useful you need to integrate them with all your services and data, and if you're already using a trusted provider Like Claude or ClaudeFlare etc. then it's easy just to stick with their offerings.

Thanks for the migration guide!

ndom91 5 hours ago|
Sad to see this. Val town was a great little platform! Lots of cool ideas
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