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Posted by NaOH 2 days ago

'Grey Rocking': The Life-Improving Power of Being Really, Really Boring (2021)(www.esquire.com)
59 points | 31 comments
intellectronica 1 hour ago|
From experience: it works, and can be an effective tactic when no other options are available.

Long-term, it can be hard to sustain, and maybe a bit unhealthy – it becomes a form of self-betrayal, where you repeatedly suppress genuine negative feelings about dealing with someone difficult. These feelings are there for a reason, even if expressing them with the person triggering them would be counterproductive.

Also, in more extreme cases, the sort of people who are prone to creating drama and conflict pick up on the technique and make it into a battle of wills – who will break and give up first. And they may be a lot better at it than you are, because for them it is a central feature of their personality, and for you it's just a tactic for immediate relief.

CoolestBeans 1 hour ago|
Well said. In essence grey rocking itself is a form of defensive manipulation. Most of us are prosocial and find it really laborious to keep up. It's an ok tactic when communication is ineffective or harmful. It is probably a bad idea to use it with someone you simply have a point of friction with. It can be hard to know the difference sometimes though.
justonceokay 6 minutes ago|||
Maybe, but not all of us really need to do this. It seems to me that “gray rocking“ is a corrective strategy for the type of person who easily overreacts.

Put another way, the type of person who is naturally “boring” and not very reactive probably won’t get themselves tangled with the kind of person that needs to be “grey rocked”. If you are always a gray rock, then you are not an easy target for a manipulator.

atoav 54 minutes ago|||
I knew a person who constantly grayrocked even people she has never met before who she totally could have been open with. Just like any method you can use or abuse it.

If you find yourself in the blast radius of an abusive narcissistic person for example, grayrocking is totally a decent way to deal with them, while keeping your calm. But using it towards everybody whom you're not 100% on board with is probably a bit overkill.

nye2k 1 hour ago||
I like the idea of a Yellow Rock, still shining, smiling and being the positive old self, just giving absolutely nothing in return for toxic behavior... In my situation, morale improved across the department and the mental beatings came to an end.

Grey Rock method worked against a particularly toxic work conflict that was keeping me awake at night... but... the reality was that it produced zero work results for any of us.

greyr0ck 1 hour ago||
Grey rock is a very valuable technique, but also often a symptom of having low boundaries yourself. It can be exciting to have the attention of a grandiose person at first, but having people you can't say no to is a huge problem.

Anyone having these sorts of people problems I would highly recommend https://youtube.com/@DoctorRamani

graemep 28 minutes ago|
She is amazing. I particularly recommend the older "glossary" videos.
LoganDark 2 minutes ago||
I have a lot of experience with this, and it sucks. But it works. People will learn to stop expecting things out of you that don't happen. And once there's nothing left for them, they will lose interest completely.
jayd16 52 minutes ago||
Doesn't this just lead to being steamrolled on every decision or would be conflict? Seems like it would work if the person is addicted to drama but not if they're happy to simply use you.

To me it seems like the crux of the technique is "don't engage in drama" but making yourself lesser to do that seems problematic.

bityard 31 minutes ago||
I believe the goal of gray-rocking here is to defend yourself against overly dramatic and abusive bullies which you are forced to have some minimal contact with (family member, co-worker on another team, friend-of-a-friend), not someone you have to deal and negotiate with daily. Those require different and situation-dependent strategies.

It's not making yourself lesser, it's basically "not taking the bait," which is very much a strength, not a weakness.

exegete 40 minutes ago||
I think it depends on the power dynamic. It’s probably easier to implement with family members outside of your home than your manager.
3pm 31 minutes ago||
If this article resonated - I highly recommend Bill Eddy and his books and podcasts. He does a good job on providing nomenclature - 4 or 5 cluster B personality disorders which he tones down to "high-conflict person" and patterns on dealing with them.
childofhedgehog 1 hour ago||
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ta2112 1 hour ago|
Denied :/

Edit: Oh lol. I guess you just have to click the captcha. Never seen that in an archive before.

Brian_K_White 1 hour ago||
archive.is/ph/today/etc has been doing that for a long time

Though it might possibly vary depending where you come from, using cloudflare for dns, what browser plugins in effect, etc.

Jdfmiller 1 hour ago||
I had a difficult family member who used to give drama, telling intense and fantastical stories. My go to word just became a simple ‘Yikes’ and then silence.

After a while they tended not to talk to me at family functions.

I use it when dealing with over-sharers or people who are after a reaction and attention.

fmajid 1 hour ago||
And what do I do if I am already really, really boring as heck?
__MatrixMan__ 51 minutes ago||
For those of us who are not harassed by people seeking drama... I guess we read a different article.
exegete 56 minutes ago||
Mission accomplished
tracerbulletx 38 minutes ago|
I don't really get this framing. You can not engage with drama and also not be boring or use this label. So maybe just do that?
bityard 26 minutes ago|
Yeah, I would just call it, "don't take the bait." But I guess giving this a label helps some people internalize it as a technique they can deliberately practice. Which isn't really a bad thing.
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