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Posted by zulln 3 hours ago

FAA issues national ground stop(www.nbcnews.com)
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&a...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/11/13/us/ground-stop-natio...

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zmmmmm 1 hour ago|
It is hard to not rapidly spiral into pure conspiracy theory territory, but one has to ask how many "black swan" events can you accept within a period of a few days before you start to question things?

A sequence of events:

  - Democrats win congress : it sets a clock to act before January
  - Jensen is taken out, throwing nVidia into chaos
  - Email comms are blacked out for an entire day across government and major enterprises
  - Air traffic is stopped nation wide the next day
Can anybody join these dots?
komali2 47 minutes ago||
Too much pattern recognition. Lots more things have happened in the world as well over the last month, just because you heard of some of them doesn't mean the ones you heard of are connected.

Trust me I have the instinct as well. The PLA flew like 30 jets into Taiwan's aviation alert zone yesterday so I'm primed for any smell of something worse, but the fact is there's no reason to connect events barring evidence.

scottbez1 2 hours ago||
Listening to SFO Tower, the latest info I’ve heard is an expected stop until 04:00 UTC, but flights departing to Asia via west departure may be permitted to depart.
jerlam 2 hours ago|
I've read scattered reports of other flights also taking off from the east coast.

If the communications issue is between US ATC regions, this makes sense. The planes are being handed off to other non-US ATCs where there is no communications issue.

ronburgandy28 2 hours ago||
How did ITA Airways 609 take off from JFK at 530pm?
thatguysaguy 1 hour ago|
I saw that international departures are resuming
inheritedwisdom 1 hour ago||
AT&T is experiencing a massive outage. Appears they are the provider for the Air Route Traffic Control Centers (ARTCCs).

EDIT: Time line doesn’t add up for this. Likely unrelated

windexh8er 57 minutes ago||
I can't find anything on this other than some outages earlier in the day. Any sources for this?
paulmist 58 minutes ago|||
How can you tell AT&T is experiencing a massive outage?
dboreham 29 minutes ago||
Hmm. So the peering and fiber path diversity that we need to worry about for data centers doesn't apply for ATC??
m_kos 2 hours ago||
I set up a basic tracker here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vThhccsTanAz...

AI is updating it hourly. Since it is AI, always verify yourself.

ctrlkctrls 1 hour ago||
About 15 mins ago I got off BART at Daly City and a plane took off from SFO and flew overhead. Didn't look like anything special, just a regular passenger jet to me.
saladdays 1 hour ago|
Apparently a few internationally bound flights are being allowed to depart per NYT.
penneyd 58 minutes ago||
They are letting flights bound to Asia and Hawaii depart from the SFO/OAK
coolfox 1 hour ago||
maybe unrelated but, I just noticed my LAX region server with Fly is experiencing issues

https://status.flyio.net/incidents/01M76HANB3XQC6WYKPA69WQN8...

mmoustafa 56 minutes ago|
lol
wolpoli 3 hours ago|
Is it because it's friday the 13th?
stefan_ 2 hours ago||
I was actually expecting it to be from the Microsoft 365 outage. Non technical people have a bad habit of inserting email as a critical step in a process.

It's actually quite impressive, you have to really try to be so bad at your job of building redundant systems that some failure mode implausibly affects everything nation wide, yet allows Canadian domestic flights to proceed fine.

consumer451 2 hours ago|||
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solid_fuel 2 hours ago|||
Yup. The damage elon musk and his cronies did will, unfortunately, take a generation to fix.
slopinthebag 2 hours ago||||
there was a national ground stop in 2023, which was also Musk's fault?
sigmarule 1 hour ago|||
And why should this affect reasoning?
slopinthebag 24 minutes ago||
A -> B, except B before A too
consumer451 2 hours ago|||
Upvoted, as you are correct. There was that ground stop in 2023, which was the justification for the new and improved system:

https://fedscoop.com/faa-aviation-safety-system-doge-notam/

Did the Starship launch today just ground all flights in the USA? Maybe, maybe not. I am convinced it did. If Elon Musk can take a shred of evidence, or just make shit up, and change domestic and foreign policy, then why can't I?

We obviously live in a simulation after all, what does it matter?

slopinthebag 1 hour ago||
how would an upcoming launch cause this?
consumer451 1 hour ago||
Maybe the simulation overlords programmed us to put a buggy NOTAM out, which is what apparently happened in 2023, but now it was supposed to be fixed thanks to all this efficiency!? NOTAMs usually go out beforehand. You know, as a notice.

Again, who knows. We can barely make enough Cybertrucks due to completely factual demand. The simulation overlords are very busy with the only main character.

talon8635 2 hours ago|||
lol, yup, project 2025, gotta be that
Aboutplants 2 hours ago||
AI models are trained on data, that I’m sure talks a lot about Friday the 13th…
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