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Posted by edent 4/13/2025

My imaginary children aren't using your streaming service(shkspr.mobi)
87 points | 123 commentspage 2
oytis 4/13/2025|
Don't you dare to remind me that children exist! Children are their parents' business, normal people are entitled to a world for normal people only.

That's how I read it at least

ratherbefuddled 4/13/2025||
I read it as "stop asking me the same thing over and over again, I've already told you". It's a shame that the no doubt hundreds of UX people at Netflix are so sloppy.
graemep 4/13/2025||
I think a bit of both.

The last two paragraphs talk about "harried parents", and "world doesn't revolve around children." sounds like having kids is a burden and resentful of the impact of people having kids on his life.

Its quite a lengthy rant about a minor UI inconvenience.

There is also a problem with the "never ask again" option. How long is never? Someone who does not have children now might well in a few years time.

subscribed 4/13/2025||
LOL, next you're going to infer the author is a childless cat lady, who started regretting not having children.

It's quite a lengthy rant about prioritizing everytime inconvenience over a setting switch that could be enabled once, after a few years time.

World doesn't revolve about your children (or mine. And yes, I have them and yes, this is one of these mildly infuriating UX decisions).

conradludgate 4/13/2025||
Then I don't think you read it very clearly. This is about a prompt that keeps coming back, even though it's always going to be ignored. Every prompt is a branch which quickly gets frustrating.

Putting it into a programming context. Imagine you're a C++ developer. Wouldn't it be annoying if your text editor asked you every time you opened a project if you actually wanted to use Python instead.

nenaoki 4/13/2025||
Python devs needing to be sheltered from mature C++ themes?

Checks out I guess.

xvokcarts 4/13/2025||
Well, yeah, or else they'll release software with memory leaks, which could become a dependency of some big project and bring down some important things and have real effects on some other people.

Or, yeah, because if my child can access streaming without a child lock, they may not recover from what they see.

Looks like we should protect each other as much as we can, using UI!

kkfx 4/13/2025||
The solution is avoiding crappy UIs designed to "help those who do not know how to use a computer" keeping them in their ignorance to exploit them and damn teaching IT. The MIT Missing Semester of Your CS Education https://missing.csail.mit.edu/ should be mandatory for high schools in 2025. People than will choose not to buy services but contents, and instead of watching Netflix with multiple accounts in a family they'll simply milk a public catalog passing through their own recommendation engine/scoring system, downloading what they want and keeping it locally on their own storage having bought the bits, not the service. With the side effect of much reducing the enormous consumption of bandwidth and energy we have today to keep internet up for the old new mainframe model named "the cloud".

The push toward {fog,edge}-computing, new distributed LLM proposals like BrianknowsAI's DCI Network clearly show this trend. We need moldable systems not cages.

nyclounge 4/13/2025||
Never used these parental control thing, but recently visited a friend with kids, and saw how she uses it to 'mange' her children, and these parental control system feels totally like corporate ACL management software. I mean at some point why don't you just put a GUI in front of AWS ACL system and just call it a day.
makeitdouble 4/13/2025|
That's technically what most parental control apps are.

Some people also do the reverse and set up parental control profile on their own devices to get easier management and more granularity than the bog standard ones like screentime etc.

If anything, I wished it was more embraced.

nyclounge 4/13/2025||
Yeah I just think if we are getting to the point where we need that type of control of our kids, then we might as well NOT give them a smart phone.

Maybe first let them use fully open sourced computer so they know what is going on. Being on smart phone is like being a 2nd class citizen of computer. Let them use self-hosted app before using apps on smart phone alternatives. So they know what they are getting them selves into on the smart phone. Beside the with EFM harzard of these smart devices, it would be good to have kids focus more on real things when they are out about.

makeitdouble 4/13/2025||
This argument is often made, but then

- adults also use these type of control on themselves (this very site has a setting for people who just don't want to stop by themselves)

- adults use these on other adults as well, and not just for security purposes

- falling back to a binary all or nothing seldom helps when it comes to education. I like your point on open source computers, but getting to learn a proper distance with a smartphone is also important and should be part of any kid's education IMHO, the same way they learn to cross the street or use electrical appliances. We don't tell them it's too complicated and put them in a cage until they're 18.

dharmab 4/13/2025||
I unsubscribed from every streaming service and switched to Jellyfin+Tailscale. Since then I've had a better experience in nearly every way. For example, Jellyfin has optional parental controls, and also allows the administrator to fine-tune the content ratings.
michaelmior 4/13/2025|
Where does your content come from in that case?
dharmab 4/13/2025|||
Ripping DVDs is pretty easy these days, and you can buy used for good deals.

This is of course more expensive, since you have to buy a large storage drive, a disc reader and discs. But you have more control and rights with physical media than streaming; in practice no one can take your bits away.

If you are less scrupulous there are of course, other sources.

867-5309 4/13/2025||
there's a big difference between streaming 4K and hoarding 576p
dharmab 4/13/2025||
I usually store 1080p high bitrate, I can't see the difference beyond that with my eyesight.
subscribed 4/13/2025||
You literally suggested ripping DVDs, that's why they brought up low bitrate. I don't think 2nd hand BRs are that cheap yet.
dharmab 4/13/2025||
You can get cheap Blue Ray DVDs, but you gotta keep an eye out for deals. Set up a bot to watch for stuff you like.
amazingamazing 4/13/2025||
lol unless you pirate it’ll never be cheaper than Netflix
dharmab 4/13/2025||
It was never gonna be cheaper, hardware costs alone are more expensive. It's about control over your data and a superior experience.
ThatMedicIsASpy 4/13/2025|||
From your local AI training data of course.
HuwFulcher 4/13/2025||
What a weird article. Feels distasteful to utilise a group’s trauma to reinforce your point despite being decidedly anti-child.
llm_nerd 4/13/2025|
Precisely this. What a bizarre, whiny article. That they try to crocodile-tear about people who lost children is deplorable. People who lost children never forget, and they don't need this guy plying their strange anti-child screed pretending to speak for them.

I lost my mother when I was very young, and I remember being in middle school and being told by a well-meaning teacher that institutions should be more considerate of people like me and stop observing mother's day because it's triggering or something, or brings back memories. This stuck with me because while I appreciated that they were trying to be considerate, it was a ridiculous, ill-conceived suggestion. I never forgot that I lost my mother, and pretending that everyone else also didn't have mothers wasn't helpful. It was actually harmful.

Netflix is often something that people share with family in social settings. Even people who don't have children, who lost children, or who hate children like this weird guy, have family situations that sometimes involve children and they want to pull up a children profile. Maybe there should be a setting this guy can set to hide this because it's so triggering to his anger, but what a lame thing to whine about.

pil0u 4/13/2025||
I somehow sympathise with the author, in how struggling his life must be if he gets annoyed by such a detail in the grand scheme of things.

If anything, I tend to witness more and more "anti-child" behaviours: hotels without children, restaurants without children, weddings without children. I don't have children and feel rather uncomfortable around them, but this trend just makes me sad.

jmye 4/13/2025|
> in how struggling his life must be if he gets annoyed by such a detail in the grand scheme of things.

Do you have zero pet peeves? Never annoyed by anything short of the lack of world peace? Never written a comment suggesting something is annoying? Or is this just typical internet snark, desperately trying to pass for clever insight?

The dude wrote a short blog post about something that annoys him and it’s fucking weird when people like you try to make that something bigger than it is.

Speaking of sad.

notarobot123 4/13/2025||
Either we accept universal user interfaces like these or we accept a lot more complexity in the many possible configurations of the systems. The economic incentives seem to lean in one direction here.
johnea 4/13/2025||
Maybe the solution would be, to stop watching stupid game shows and inane sitcoms?

Maybe you're own mental health would improve (since this is repeatedly referenced as the reason for viewing nonsense media), along with that of your imaginary children?

vasco 4/13/2025|
We added an account for our dog that doesn't get used but it's funny to see.
yencabulator 4/15/2025|
A previous dog of mine loved watching the BBC show Animal Hospital (1994), and would run to the television within seconds of the theme song starting. She'd just lay down in front, looking at the television for a whole episode. This was all pre-Netflix but imagine the recommendations for that dog account.
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