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Posted by appreciatorBus 9/8/2025

The Rise and Demise of RSS (2018)(twobithistory.org)
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smusamashah 9/11/2025|
Google didn't just kill feed reader, when Chrome came, other browsers had built in RSS support of some sort (Opera definitely, I think Firefox too, don't remebber about IE).

Chrome always opened RSS links as raw XML file with no hint of what to do with it whatsoever.

goku12 9/11/2025|
Yet it survives to this day because of one reason - it's dead simple to serve and consume it. Chrome may need an extension to handle it properly (I use one on Firefox).

The singular challenge it faces is discoverability, as you point out. The above mentioned extension solves that for me. But if it were to be brought back as a default feature on browsers, RSS would be an instant hit again. There's always the opportunity to resurrect it.

not--felix 9/9/2025||
I think the main reason why rss failed is the lack of an algorithmic feed. If you follow just a few news sites you drown in articles. The social media sites are much better in filtering out stuff you do not want to see.
kevincox 9/9/2025||
You must be using different social media than me because it is all pushing celebrities and ads not friends and family that I want to see.

I much prefer being in control of my feed. In an ideal world there would probably be a mix of both (I have a list of people who I see every post and a list where I see popular or major items) but between the current options I far prefer something straightforward. Especially when the algorithm isn't fully tuned to optimize my interests.

BeFlatXIII 9/11/2025||
> not friends and family that I want to see

My friends and family don’t seem to post anymore. At least FB has groups for shared niche interests.

HankStallone 9/11/2025||
My friends and family either never post, or post garbage several times a day. (Once upon a time it was funny cat pictures and jokes; now it's "reels," whatever those are.) As you say, groups now seem to be the only place to find worthwhile content on FB.
yepitwas 9/11/2025|||
The only ways I use social media would be better served by RSS. I follow specific businesses, organizations, and people, and want to see everything they post, in chronological order. I do my best to achieve this with social media, but RSS would be better.

For news: per-topic or per-region feeds would probably help. I think AP used to have those, maybe still does.

throwaway1777 9/11/2025|||
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skeezyboy 9/11/2025|||
> I do my best to achieve this with social media

which one? there are a bunch. you could either be talking about whatsapp or youtube

yepitwas 9/11/2025||
Mostly IG (businesses and organizations) and BlueSky (people) right now. IG won't let you set the "following" page to your default any more (boooo) but it's still quick to get to, so you can just ignore the (incredibly, aggressively shit) "feed".

RSS would be better, but this works OK.

newscombinatorY 9/11/2025|||
RSS feeds can drown you in quality content you're not interested in 75% of the time. Social Media can drown you in content that seems interesting, but is worthless 75% of the time. But that's my experience - yours could be different (I totally made up the numbers, but you get the idea).
kjkjadksj 9/11/2025|||
Depending on your feed reader you can filter stuff pretty well with custom rules. I use newsboat. Even without hard filtering, thanks to the compact density I can sift through a huge number of articles in barely any time at all. Yes, I am doing it myself, the horror of laboring, but again it takes barely any time at all to go through the days RSS feeds even with a few news sites throwing 100 articles a day. Mark as read. Done.
mrgoldenbrown 9/11/2025|||
On the contrary, IME social media sites seem to fight me on filtering what I get to see. They are happy to show me what they want me to see, but constantly thwart my attempts to decide for myself. How many plugins should I need to install to get FB or twitter to respect my choice to show the timeline chronologically.
hiAndrewQuinn 9/11/2025|||
In theory a market could arise around providing bespoke algorithmic feeds for one's RSS content, in some kind of adapter model, but I don't know enough about ML engineering to suggest whether that is at all economically feasible. Maybe?
ajmurmann 9/11/2025||
An RSS client could do that, no?
dang 9/11/2025||
Related:

Rise and Demise of RSS - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18896168 - Jan 2019 (123 comments)

The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18002503 - Sept 2018 (186 comments)

hombre_fatal 9/11/2025||
RSS sucks because it depends on every content source offering the API.

The successor to RSS is where each feed is an arbitrary URL that your client hits to generate a feed. With an LLM this is trivial compared to before.

HankStallone 9/11/2025||
Are you talking about something that can go out to any web site, grab the HTML, and turn it into a feed that's consistent with any other feed and not a big hairy mess of stuff that wasn't actually part of the content?

That doesn't sound trivial at all to me, so maybe I'm misunderstanding.

hombre_fatal 9/12/2025||
It's a trivial task for an LLM to take the HTML at https://techcrunch.com/latest/ and extract a perfect list of only the article URLs. And if you can do this, then you can build the tool that I describe.

From there you can extract each article content with an LLM or use something like readability.js or just download the whole page for later consumption.

I have a prototype of it. You add a feed as { feedUrl, feedPrompt, articlePrompt }.

`feedPrompt` lets you append rules for extracting the article url list from the `feedUrl` like "ignore video articles". `articlePrompt` lets you append rules for how to extract article content for a given website, like "translate to english".

imiric 9/11/2025|||
RSS is not an API, though. It's another content type like HTML, typically XML, but in a specific format that makes it easier for programs to consume.

Generating it is trivial in most web frameworks and CMSs, and sites that don't offer it either never bothered to set it up, or actively choose not to. This is hardly a fault of RSS itself.

What you suggest as a successor is a workaround for such sites, not something that should be the norm.

hombre_fatal 9/12/2025||
So RSS isn't an API because it returns XML instead of JSON or protobufs? That doesn't sound right. It's an endpoint for machine consumption and that's what most people mean when they refer to an API. But that's a distraction from the point.

It's trivial to implement an RSS endpoint, but what's not trivial is requiring everyone to implement it.

Needing someone to implement an API just to have machine-friendly pull access to their latest content is only a trade-off that made sense last decade.

It's not a good solution if you had the power of generating feeds yourself.

xnx 9/11/2025||
Agree! Just wrote basically this comment before I saw yours. Disappointingly even pay tools like Feedly have extremely poor RSS creators. All Feedly's features for the past few years seem to focus on some obscure niche of IT security threat awareness.
ageospatial 9/11/2025||
RSS won't be dead. Our AI agents are using RSS as this is still extremely useful for parsing data. Think about the amazing work RSS did for GeoRSS
WaltPurvis 9/11/2025||
This article is seven years old; seems like (2018) should be in the title.
senectus1 9/12/2025||
sigh this narrative again.

RSS is far from dead.

Edit: lol just noticed the article is from 2018...

matteeyah 9/11/2025||
Initially, I thought this was about Rainbow Six Siege
dave333 9/14/2025||
What are your favorite few RSS feeds?
matteeyah 9/11/2025|
I thought this was about Rainbow Six Siege
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