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Posted by appreciatorBus 7 days ago

The Rise and Demise of RSS (2018)(twobithistory.org)
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xnx 3 days ago|
The next phase of RSS is having a client ("agent") that can process arbitrary feed-style pages and create sanitized (e.g. ad, tracking, and visual junk free) RSS feeds.

RSS isn't "dead", but it (actively?) neglected when even a "blog" like https://waymo.com/blog/ (to pick one random-ish example) doesn't have an RSS or Atom feed. Content sources see zero (or negative) value in RSS.

dang 3 days ago||
Related:

Rise and Demise of RSS - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18896168 - Jan 2019 (123 comments)

The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18002503 - Sept 2018 (186 comments)

hagbard_c 3 days ago||
Rumours of RSS's demise are greatly exaggerated, I use it every day for dozens of sites. If a site does not offer an RSS feed one can be generated using something like rssproxy [1] or another implementation of this idea.

[1] https://github.com/damoeb/rss-proxy

dave333 1 day ago||
What are your favorite few RSS feeds?
hombre_fatal 3 days ago||
RSS sucks because it depends on every content source offering the API.

The successor to RSS is where each feed is an arbitrary URL that your client hits to generate a feed. With an LLM this is trivial compared to before.

HankStallone 3 days ago||
Are you talking about something that can go out to any web site, grab the HTML, and turn it into a feed that's consistent with any other feed and not a big hairy mess of stuff that wasn't actually part of the content?

That doesn't sound trivial at all to me, so maybe I'm misunderstanding.

hombre_fatal 2 days ago||
It's a trivial task for an LLM to take the HTML at https://techcrunch.com/latest/ and extract a perfect list of only the article URLs. And if you can do this, then you can build the tool that I describe.

From there you can extract each article content with an LLM or use something like readability.js or just download the whole page for later consumption.

I have a prototype of it. You add a feed as { feedUrl, feedPrompt, articlePrompt }.

`feedPrompt` lets you append rules for extracting the article url list from the `feedUrl` like "ignore video articles". `articlePrompt` lets you append rules for how to extract article content for a given website, like "translate to english".

imiric 3 days ago|||
RSS is not an API, though. It's another content type like HTML, typically XML, but in a specific format that makes it easier for programs to consume.

Generating it is trivial in most web frameworks and CMSs, and sites that don't offer it either never bothered to set it up, or actively choose not to. This is hardly a fault of RSS itself.

What you suggest as a successor is a workaround for such sites, not something that should be the norm.

hombre_fatal 2 days ago||
So RSS isn't an API because it returns XML instead of JSON or protobufs? That doesn't sound right. It's an endpoint for machine consumption and that's what most people mean when they refer to an API. But that's a distraction from the point.

It's trivial to implement an RSS endpoint, but what's not trivial is requiring everyone to implement it.

Needing someone to implement an API just to have machine-friendly pull access to their latest content is only a trade-off that made sense last decade.

It's not a good solution if you had the power of generating feeds yourself.

xnx 3 days ago||
Agree! Just wrote basically this comment before I saw yours. Disappointingly even pay tools like Feedly have extremely poor RSS creators. All Feedly's features for the past few years seem to focus on some obscure niche of IT security threat awareness.
ageospatial 3 days ago||
RSS won't be dead. Our AI agents are using RSS as this is still extremely useful for parsing data. Think about the amazing work RSS did for GeoRSS
senectus1 3 days ago||
sigh this narrative again.

RSS is far from dead.

Edit: lol just noticed the article is from 2018...

WaltPurvis 3 days ago||
This article is seven years old; seems like (2018) should be in the title.
matteeyah 3 days ago||
Initially, I thought this was about Rainbow Six Siege
matteeyah 3 days ago|
I thought this was about Rainbow Six Siege
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