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Posted by joshmanders 9/8/2025

iPhone dumbphone(stopa.io)
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Anechoic 9/9/2025|
If you're going through the hassle of reseting your iPhone to set with Configurator, you should think about pair locking your phone while you're at it:

https://reincubate.com/support/how-to/pair-lock-supervise-ip...

marklar423 9/8/2025||
I've been trying to do this too - paring down distracting apps, leaving only essentials like communication, maps, uber, etc. But my problem is what to do about the browser? I feel it's too essential to the "long tail" of uses (as the author put it), but also among the most distracting apps on my phone.

If anybody has any ideas I'd love to hear them.

mateioo7 9/8/2025||
Something I've recently played with is a very 'dumb' android browser [0] able only to open and share links (and refresh the webpage), nothing else. Since I don't trust myself that I won't just click links from page to page I also configured the webview's client to disable links [1]. From this, you may be able to restrict yourself as much as you can since you could set a whitelist set of links you find 'indispensable'.

[0] https://github.com/rickgram/NoBrowser

[1] https://developer.android.com/develop/ui/views/layout/webapp...

IlikeKitties 9/8/2025|||
If on Android, you can propably use something like rethinkdns and just block the worst timewasting websites for a while. Once you get used to not accessing reddit, youtube, prawnhub, whatever your poison is, the browser becomes boring again.
amilios 9/8/2025|||
What works for me, and this might not be palatable to everyone, is to intentionally downgrade my phone to a worse experience to add friction. I am currently using an SE 2020 on purpose. This thing overheats like hell, if I try to do anything too intensive with it it starts stuttering like crazy. But that's actually perfect, it's what I want. It naturally reduces my use time because it can get annoying to use.
ChicagoBoy11 9/8/2025|||
One thing I sense the author is ignoring is the pretty LARGE swath of third party apps that do something of the like but in a much more user-friendly form factor. Most are targeted towards parents and teens, but surely there's no reason you basically couldn't use it on yourself. I'm thinking of things like Qustodio and the like. It should still allow you to massively restrict the iPhone, there's a little bit of friction involved with undoing it -- but not as insane as the entire iPhone reset -- and you can much more easily on the fly make custom changes to it as you go about it. I'd probably spring for something like that if I found screen time or self-control to be an issue before going full-in on something like configurator which I think would be very, very hard to iterate settings with.
eigencoder 9/9/2025|||
I've been doing what the author did for about a year using Configurator. I have the browser blocked completely. I found that I could still get around it by sending messages to myself in apps like Messenger and using the built-in browser.

So I ended up using an allow list for internet traffic with nothing allowed, which stopped that. What do you find you need the browser for?

impure-aqua 9/9/2025||
In the UK it has become very common to need to scan a QR code on your table to order at a restaurant, which takes you to a website.

Most certainly you can still order at the bar the old fashioned way, but since COVID, physical menus have been removed, so how is your group meant to decide what it wants to order before one of you goes up on its behalf? (You cannot all go up if you want to hold the table.)

I don't even particularly mind the experience of using the website; the interface enables the display of all ingredients & allows you to specify allergens they need to avoid. If the kitchen runs out of an item, they can mark it as unavailable in the webpage. Finally, fighting to order at a busy bar was never a fun experience to begin with (it is the norm in non-fine-dining experiences in the UK to not have your order taken at your table.) But, this does require you allow arbitrary internet access on your device, which complexifies the blocking situation.

marklar423 9/10/2025|||
Yes it's exactly the one-off situations like that, which aren't super often but occur enough to greatly inconvenience someone without a pocket browser.
eigencoder 9/9/2025|||
That totally makes sense!
coffeefirst 9/8/2025|||
The pattern that finally seems to work for me is to use Freedom to block all scrolly crap specifically on mobile. If I want to dig through YouTube or look something up on Reddit that’s fine, but I have to physically go to a machine that’s not always in my pocket.

At least so far I don’t need any of the things I’ve blocked on the go.

specproc 9/8/2025|||
I'm a real app minimalist, only basic stuff for day to day living, but the browser is what sucks my life away.

I've tried things like Leechblock, but they don't stick.

The only thing that's really worked is turning the damn thing off and sticking it in a drawer. I managed it for a week once. Hard to keep to though.

bighead1 9/8/2025|||
i've been using the blank spaces launcher for this. it has its flaws for sure, but the feature most useful for the scenario you describe is the "Lock Distractions" feature. In order to use safari, you have to go through a "mindfulness" exercise, and then you can unlock safari for a small amount of time (1 minute, 5 minutes, up to 20). I find this is just enough to keep me out of random wikipedia pages all day, but still allows me to pull up a webpage when i need to do some very specific task (like unsubscribe from an email list).
dpc050505 9/8/2025|||
A small lock on the browser, something as simple as the math problems some people use to stop their alarm in the morning might be a sufficient stopgap from mindless browser use.
AlecSchueler 9/8/2025||
Needs to come back every five minutes or so.
d--b 9/8/2025|||
I vaguely remember someone here saying what worked for them was to add a fair amount of artificial lag to browsing, so that loading a page would actually be painfully slow.
asdff 9/8/2025|||
I find the mobile web is doing a great job of destroying the addictiveness of the browser. I use an se2 so not terribly old. new reddit doesn't really work at all on it. old reddit just barely. Most other websites seem to hang after trying to load all the adware and never return the full content anymore. Some mobile websites just flat out don't load at all anymore, just a white screen like the phone rolled over and gave up.

Hacker news is about the only website that works. But, once you find a couple threads you are interested in you are rate limited from replying before long and that frustration kicks me off it until days later potentially.

dsclough 9/8/2025||
install the browser if you need it, uninstall it when youre done
encom 9/8/2025||
>Maybe you’re at a restaurant and they need you to open a website for example.

Maybe I'll open the door and leave for a different restaurant.

hs586 9/8/2025||
Came to write something along these lines. I do this for restaurants, and sometimes for the places that refuse to take cash. But I do not have hope that such behaviour will impact the restaurants' policies: it's usually chains or non-owner-ran places that will have a "high-tech" policy and I am not sure if this kind of feedback reaches the decision makers.

But these days (for now) finding another restaurant is easy. The author mentions that his gym requires having a smartphone. Now, that's a much bigger problem.

encom 9/8/2025||
I was at a gym once that decided they wanted to do facial recognition for check-ins. I canceled my membership instantly (and told them why). Am I out of touch, or is that creepy beyond all reason?
cheema33 9/8/2025|||
I am assuming that if you asked, they'd give you a printed menu. You don't have to be difficult about it.

I don't always need the dead tree version of the menu. Those do create extra work for the staff. And I am assuming they need constant replacement. Kids will drop food on them all the time.

stopachka 9/8/2025||
Yeah it's definitely annoying. Recently I was at a kiosk for Turkish Airlines, and they _really_ didn't want to print the boarding pass. They wanted to send a text instead.
James72689 9/8/2025||
Alternate solution I haven’t seen anywhere else:

1. Screen time to disable browser, App Store etc.

2. Type random 4-digit passwords until you forget.

3. Use your own Apple account as reset.

4. Remove apple password from password manager. Store in “Notes” app or similar on computer.

5. Lock this app storing password behind mandatory typing of gibberish using Cold Turkey on desktop.

Works well for me.

I will mention that as a younger person who grew up with internet access, I get the feeling that the “just be disciplined” comment often comes from people who didn’t have these addictive habits seared into their minds from an early age or have fought them off and forgotten what it’s like to literally lose control of your actions, especially when its normalized around you.

I’ve noticed a lot of older people don’t see the internet as a threat in the same way as I do, and I envy that.

Living with phones like this is completely unnatural.

parallax_error 9/8/2025||
Can’t you click the “ignore limit” button when trying to open a restricted app though?
James72689 9/8/2025||
No, the password sets a strict block.
Aerbil313 9/10/2025||
Dude...

> I get the feeling that the “just be disciplined” comment often comes from people who didn’t have these addictive habits seared into their minds from an early age

I had the exact same mentality as you. I wrote the exact same stuff right here on HN, you can check my older comments. I did the same stuff, the lengths I went to lock down my devices...

That's not the case, older people are not immune because they grew up with less tech or anything. It's (probably) just you.

Turns out I actually objectively had far worse self-control than other people. Turns out I was living life really in hard mode while everybody else were coasting with ease. Turns out I had undiagnosed ADHD all my childhood, nobody noticed because my school grades were mostly fine.

Go get checked. My life turned over completely with treatment.

titanomachy 9/9/2025||
Thanks for this. I'm setting it up now, works for me as advertised. My screen time jumped a lot in the last couple weeks and my mental health has declined in proportion.

I use Freedom, but it's a bit glitchy and too easy to delete the app if you really want to cheat.

I'm waffling a bit on the default-deny approach to websites. I think that might cause serious headaches since e.g. scanning QR codes to interact with businesses is pretty common. But I will give it a try.

Update: it took me a couple hours to get everything set up the way I like it after resetting the phone, but so far this is fantastic. I also massively restricted notifications, which had gotten a bit out of hand.

Aerbil313 9/10/2025|
Congratulations!

I myself independently arrived where the author is over years of self experimentation, but I think you'll get used to it in no more than a month.

I even use a whitelist (i.e. default-deny) for websites on my work laptop these days. I have ADHD though, YMMV.

titanomachy 9/16/2025||
I think anyone desperate enough to attempt this probably also has ADHD!
amirathi 9/8/2025||
Just uninstalling the endless scrolling apps (Twitter, Reddit, Instagram etc.) was enough for me.
amilios 9/8/2025||
Unfortunately some of us use Instagram specifically to keep in touch with people (IG DMs). and Meta does not seem to want to split off the messaging from the main app the same way they did with FB messenger for some reason (I would love it if they did). For Twitter, some of us need it for work as well (lots of interesting AI research published directly to Twitter). Reddit is definitely pure entertainment yeah. But there are nuances.
madaxe_again 9/8/2025|||
Twitter, I uninstalled the app and used via the browser for about a year until I finally gave it the boot outright.

Similarly, I felt I needed it to “keep in touch” with people, but I ultimately decided the psychic tax was too high to maintain some lukewarm friendships when I have perfectly good ones in meatspace.

balder1991 9/9/2025|||
But you can talk to people on Instagram from FB Messenger.
amilios 9/9/2025||
https://help.instagram.com/654906392080948

Doesn't seem like this is possible anymore?

at-fates-hands 9/8/2025||
This was a huge one for me. Remember spending so much time posting and reading twitter and insta feeds when I was in car with my wife. Totally different now. We talk and converse about what's going on with our kids, stuff at work, its way better. We both feel much more connected.

I also turned off all notifications from all my apps, period end of story. My battery lasts for days and its not completely distracting. Made a huge difference in my ability to focus.

Timpy 9/9/2025||
I think this guide is nice, and having a variety of articles like this is great so everybody can look at the different ideas and find what's right for them.

I would urge people to consider going a little bit further than this guide, consider not using your phone as a reading device. Imagine deciding to sit down with a physical book, but keeping your phone nestled on the opposite page as you read. It would be a lot nicer to read without interruption, without being exposed to notifications at all times. Sure there are going to be use cases where the phone is more convenient, but I think sacrificing convenience is worth it.

klabetron 9/9/2025||
I’m in denial about needing to curb some pretty bad habits so won’t comment on that.

But! I have a fairly “smart” home for controlling my lights, etc. I control it with Siri and the Home app. When friends/family with iPhones stay with me, I just add them as a guest.

Just left town for a few weeks leaving my home & dog to a sitter… with an android. I’ve got an old iPhone that I ended up doing all of the Screen Time/Parental Controls hacks to lock down to must a smart remote. I didn’t love the result. I’m looking forward to using the OP’s post to guide me in making a better dumbphone/smart remote. Thanks!

ryanisnan 9/8/2025||
I'll shout out Clearspace[1]. They're YC W23[2]. I am in no way affiliated with them.

I find the app is very useful. I do find it still takes some discipline, but it adds enough friction into accessing pointless apps, that it makes a real dent in my doom-scrolling. It isn't cheap, but it works well enough that at the current price point, I will pay.

[1] - https://www.getclearspace.com/ [2] - https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/clearspace

teeeeeegz 9/9/2025|
Using iOS 26 with the glassy-reflective elements feels like a storm in a teacup with making people even more addicted to their phones the moment they pick them up, observing all the shiny effects with a slight tilt of their wrist.

I wish Apple would open up customization capabilities to properly kick the addictive elements from the phone, like Android with custom launchers...

I've also experimented with Apple Configurator many months ago but unfortunately it's too tedious for most people wanting to enforce a simplified phone, but its beauty is in its level of power of creating a bespoke iPhone experience.

fwiw I'm the maker of the Dumb Phone app (dp) that somebody mentioned below and what's mostly kept my daily average screen time to 1-2 hours is getting rid of the addictive elements from the home screen.

No more color, icons, fancy wallpapers, just a simple single-colored text-based list of my most essential apps that open when tapped. Zero social media.

We live in 2025 and as much as i'd love to experiment with a nerfed feature phone, I personally need a high quality camera each day, maps of course, banking apps, authenticators, etc.

Kicking that dopamine hit has helped me use my phone as a utility again, otherwise I put it away. I have an Apple Watch too with all alerts turned off except for calls, texts - so another reason to keep the phone down.

Since I also run a business I do need to leverage mobile social apps, so these now all live on a "separate" iPhone which stays in a drawer until I need to perform a particular task with it, then it goes back in right away.

Genuinely feels good to have my phones work for me now rather than the other way around, and I see a lot of common sentiment when I speak to people who have also done the same thing to their phones.

Highly recommend cleaning up your Home Screen as a good starting point, and purge your notifications.

edit: I also begrudgingly installed Beeper last week to keep in touch with an important group chat on FB messenger on the main phone, but it's bliss only seeing a list of group messages vs the long list of story buttons along the top in the main app, green and red dots, so i'm not inclined to tap around afterwards.

ycombinete 9/9/2025||
One way to achieve this is to set the interface to monochrome.

Settings -> Accessibility -> Display & Text Size -> Color Filters -> Monochrome

It becomes instantly less appealing.

throwawayq3423 9/9/2025||
The grayscale is honestly amazing.

On newer iPhones, tap the right button three times and your whole phone goes black and white. It becomes way less engaging to use.

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