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Posted by LorenDB 4 days ago

No adblocker detected(maurycyz.com)
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userbinator 4 days ago|
I found it amusing that my proxy detected the "/ads/" in the URL and killed the connection automatically.

Of course highlighting this fact that the presence of an adblocker is detectable, unfortunately only results in escalating the cat-and-mouse game further.

I have also considered popularising a script that replaces the whole page's content with "JavaScript detected, please disable it to view this content and improve your security".

creatonez 4 days ago||
> I have also considered popularising a script that replaces the whole page's content with "JavaScript detected, please disable it to view this content and improve your security".

This is exactly what most dark net markets do.

zamadatix 4 days ago||
Ironically, the latter would probably end up being cat-and-mouse blocked by tools like the former.
joquarky 3 days ago||
The cat/mouse are only interested in what happens in the mainstream.

Find something off the beaten path that works for you and it will rarely need updates.

nntwozz 4 days ago||
The ads themselves are one thing, the more sinister part is that they eat battery life and cause extra network activity.

It's like a leech, and they want you to think it's a symbiotic relationship.

unwind 4 days ago||
This is a very nice idea, nicely presented too.

Bug report: There's a typo in the actual popup as shown to me, it says "extention". Consistently enough, the typo is present in the code snippet in the article:

    if (!document.cookie.includes("notice-shown")) {
        document.getElementById("ad-note-hidden").id = 'ad-note';
        document.getElementById("ad-note-content-wrapper").innerHTML = "No adblocker detected. " + 
        "Consider using an extention like <a href=https://ublockorigin.com/>uBlock Origin</a> to save time and bandwidth." +
        " <u onclick=hide()>Click here to close.</u>";
    }
WD-42 4 days ago||
I wonder what the overlap between visitors to a site that would display this and visitors not already using an adblocker is. Then again I've seen developers with ads plastered all over their screens before, I'd like to believe it's a conscious decision on their part.
GuB-42 4 days ago||
Now that I think of it, when a professional YouTuber shows their browser, more often than not, there is no ad-blocking. But as professional YouTubers, there is no way they are not aware of ad-blocking.

I wonder if they actually watch the ads on purpose, even in private or if they turn their adblocker off just for the video, as not to give ideas to their viewers and potentially losing ad revenue.

creatonez 4 days ago|||
A while back Linus Tech Tips said ad blockers are a form of unethical piracy. His audience accused him of spreading self-serving bullshit. Oddly, his position changed a few years later and he started promoting adblocking.

The chance that he was using one the whole damn time? 100%

joquarky 3 days ago|||
Nearly every human being has a hintergedanken. I think this one is pretty benign.
zem 4 days ago|||
back in the heyday of the daily wtf there was a beautiful submission from a developer who worked for a banner ad company. got called into a VP's office one day and yelled at because some new annoying ad wasn't showing up where intended, a bunch of debugging later it turned out that the VP was running an ad blocker and had just forgotten about it.
WD-42 4 days ago|||
Yea, I've seen a few videos from Low Level Learning where the content of the article he's reading from gets covered by annoying banner ads and such. I don't know why but security websites have really obnoxious ads. In any case, you can see the anguish on his face but the show must go on.
omoikane 4 days ago|||
I see it since I don't have adblockers installed.

Instead of adblockers, I remember sites that are user hostile one way or another and just avoid those sites. Those sites that are heavy on ads usually aren't worth my time anyway, so the presence of those auto-playing videos in every corner ends up being a signal for me to go somewhere else.

giveita 4 days ago||
Use the original adblocker: hosts
mustaphah 4 days ago||
Adblockers might not be enough.

Some services claim to turn "anonymous" visitors into actual email addresses (and some other basic info), likely via identity graphs (IP/device/hashed IDs).

I've heard of cases where people are getting outreached (via email) after just visiting a product website, even with an ad blocker on, using a private browser (Brave or similar).

Opensend is one example. They're pretty open about it in their FAQ [1].

[1] https://www.opensend.com/faq

driverdan 4 days ago|
Proper adblockers like uBlock Origin block privacy invasive trackers that do this too.
mcintyre1994 4 days ago||
Ironically a content blocker on iOS Safari blocks this page from loading at all, I’m guessing because of the /ads/ in the URL rather than the domain. I didn’t see the notice on iOS after disabling the content blockers, but that’s probably because of the not enough space/off to the side constraint?
charrondev 4 days ago||
> but if you use external CSS, it’s quite common for the request to fail resulting in an unstyled page

That’s a pretty crazy statement. How often do you see loading a CSS stylesheet fail to load? Most sites are completely unusable without their stylesheets and I don’t recall the last time I saw a stylesheet fail to load.

dspillett 4 days ago||
> How often do you see loading a CSS stylesheet fail to load?

I wouldn't say often, but it certianly happens often enough that I make sure my own designs work well enough (the content is visible at least, even if it is hellish ugly) if external resources like that fail to load.

The most frequent cause is a site that is overloaded due to a hug from HN or similar, the main request going through OK but some of the subsequent ones timing out. It is getting less common with servers that support HTTP2/HTTP3 so pipeline better, as the usual failure point in these cases is in opening a connection not while reading the response (or the server generating that response).

It can also happen if static content is served from a different place, and that is down but the host serving the main content is not.

inetknght 4 days ago|||
> How often do you see loading a CSS stylesheet fail to load?

Often. It might have something to do with my adblock settings though...

> Most sites are completely unusable without their stylesheets

Those sites are generally completely trash anyway.

copypaper 4 days ago|||
I've had it happen to me exactly once in the past few years. And a simple refresh fixed it. Definitely an overstatement to say it's common.
userbinator 4 days ago||
Somewhat common if a site is being overloaded.
saghm 4 days ago||
That checks out, I feel like the place I've seen it the most is on Github, which also seems to be the site I use regularly that has the most frequent outages (which also aren't quite at the level I'd call them common, but still _somewhat_ common_ compared to everything else I use anywhere close to daily)
daemonologist 4 days ago||
A few times a month for me. (Some combination of Comcast, a Qualcomm NFA765 on Linux, and ad-block. Probably mostly the second thing.)
DocTomoe 4 days ago||
It's bad enough we got extra work for those who use adblockers. Wasting peoples' time and attention for not using one (out of personal choice or necessity) feels like overreach.

It's also deeply paternalistic: Even if it is meant well - and I assume that's the case here - it implies the site operator knows better than the user what is good for them.

Finally, this will also lower the guards of less technical users for installing random plug-ins on website demand.

From a subjective gut feeling: Please do not do this. Let people decide what they need, and what they don't need.

_Algernon_ 4 days ago||
>Wasting peoples' time and attention for not using one (out of personal choice or necessity) feels like overreach.

This already happens with every ad successfully shown to a person. Why don't you criticize the ad business for much more extensive overreach instead of someone doing harmless activism on their own website?

dspillett 4 days ago||
> Wasting peoples' time and attention for not using one (out of personal choice or necessity) feels like overreach.

This is far from the same as the overreach of many (most?) ads. From the description: “It’s shown off to the side, and never covers content. It won’t be shown if there isn’t enough space.”. In fact the space issue is overly careful, on my protrait 1080p monitor it doesn't show because 1080 pixels is just a little too thin for its test.

And someone who is used to how things are without a blocker, is unlikely to notice this extra little (non-animated, soundless, out-of-the-way) message in the general melée!

> Finally, this will also lower the guards of less technical users for installing random plug-ins on website demand.

That is a fair point (though those guards seem so low enough already in general that this will make litle real world difference). Instead of pointing to a particular thing to install, when I do this on my output I'll point to a page listing common options and a warning about installing random stuff without at least minimal research.

mediumsmart 4 days ago|
The message does not show on Orion and I have no adblocker installed. I was also not told any Jellyfish facts.
Squarex 4 days ago|
Have you disabled the bult-in adblocker?
mediumsmart 4 days ago||
I am not aware of a built in adblocker as a component. The browser is zero telemetry by default and quite a few sites helpfully point to howto disable adblock plugins in chrome and firefox tutorials when they encounter Orion.
Squarex 3 days ago||
It is enabled by default: https://help.kagi.com/orion/privacy-and-security/ad-tracking....
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