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Posted by natalie3p 4 days ago

TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning(www.thenexus.media)
293 points | 211 commentspage 3
daedrdev 4 days ago|
Youtube forces 30 seconds of adds multiple times a video. Tiktok has absolutely become more popular than youtube thanks to its less intrusive ads.
knowaveragejoe 4 days ago||
tiktok videos themselves are often just ads.
cwillu 4 days ago||
But they're not forced.
sirbutters 4 days ago||
Am I the only one who absolutely despises vertical videos? For that reason alone I would not touch TikTok with a 10ft pole.
coldtea 4 days ago||
TikTok and those consuming it can rot.

Some of us will continue to be reading War and Peace level works and watch "lengthy" movies.

int_19h 4 days ago||
War and Peace is hardly a stellar example of good literature, though. Tolstoy in general is very overrated, and W&P especially so.
coldtea 4 days ago||
>War and Peace is hardly a stellar example of good literature, though

Based on some totally idiosyncratic personal assement maybe.

Not in any canonical ranking (or in mine).

mdavid626 4 days ago||
IF there will be “lengthy” movies.
coldtea 4 days ago||
There a stock of older movies though, bigger than I can watch in a lifetime, and that's just considering the good ones.
mdavid626 4 days ago||
Sure, that can work.

One would want to watch also contemporary works.

coldtea 4 days ago||
Nah, I try to actively avoid those. But there's a substantial number of good contemporary world cinema too.
lloydatkinson 4 days ago||
Is the posting account a bot? It’s posted only links and zero comments since it was created.
greenhearth 4 days ago||
It's basically television^1000. TV was also constantly criticized for reducing critical thinking skills and championing mediocrity. Douglas Adams put it best of course: "the future is the same old stuff with faster cars"
dcchambers 4 days ago||
> TikTok won. Now everything is 60 seconds.

It's true and it's devastating. I intentionally never signed up for TikTok because of the dangers of hyper-addictive short form content. Ultra-processed, junk food content.

But my Instagram became TikTok - so now I don't use Instagram. My YouTube is becoming TikTok - so now I don't use YouTube. Everything is implementing autoplaying short form content. X/Twitter. Reddit. etc.

TikTok won, and we're all worse off for it.

josefresco 4 days ago||
Even the new ESPN app has short form videos called "Verts".
bogtog 4 days ago|||
> But my Instagram became TikTok - so now I don't use Instagram. My YouTube is becoming TikTok - so now I don't use YouTube. Everything is implementing autoplaying short form content. X/Twitter. Reddit. etc.

There are notably numerous Chrome/Firefox extensions that will hide Shorts from the YouTube homescreen. Plenty of creators are still focusing on normal-length content

dcchambers 4 days ago||
Yes, and I use those on my desktop. Doesn't help with the mobile apps though.

I guess the solution is just no YouTube on the phone.

The one that upsets me the most is Instagrams shift from photos to video. I miss seeing cool photos from my friends.

nadermx 4 days ago||
I mean if you must, you can always save things off tiktok by removing the "ok" from the URL, ending up at https://tikt.com, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44283876
accrual 4 days ago||
I'm going to be the odd duck here and suggest TikTok has been helpful for me. I view it as a tool. It can be used in a harmful way (scrolling for hours, reduced attention span) but it can also be helpful if used correctly.

It's kind of like Reddit and other "customize your feed" social media. If you subscribe to the defaults, yeah, it's hot garbage. If you select content creators or topics that support your individual growth then you get a much different outcome.

Of course not to say I couldn't have benefited from the same topics via another type of media. But I enjoy the few minutes I spend on TT per day, seeing what my favorites have posted, etc. I even met a cool dummer named Zooich in Japan who I enjoy following and interacting with each week. And I've made a bit of content myself which I'm proud of.

Lastly, in no way does my positive experience diminish the negative issues surrounding TT. I fully agree it contributes to reduced attention span, spreading misinformation, etc. -- just like most other forms of social media. And there's a very real risk of it becoming state media in the future. I just wanted to provide a different perspective other than "TT is terrible in every way, ban it!".

resters 4 days ago||
Tiktok has such a better feed algorithm than any of the incumbents. You see what you like, plain and simple.

It made me realize how much the incumbents myopically prioritize ad engagement above all else.

NooneAtAll3 4 days ago||
I want to note that culture has been shaped by recommendation algorithm looong before tiktok...

First time I noticed that was "we are number one" meme in autumn 2016

omikun 4 days ago||
I used to love watching the hour long essays but after notebooklm I just get a briefing summary and realize most of these essays are mostly vibes.
givemeethekeys 4 days ago|
Would someone be able to explain how I, as someone who has never installed TikTok be interfacing with this new change in culture?
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