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Posted by geox 2 days ago

From burner phones to decks of cards: NYC teens adjusting to the smartphone ban(gothamist.com)
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cracki 1 day ago|
These kids are still required to have a programmable graphing calculator in high school, right? Those things, today, are basically phones without the cellular circuitry. Some have Wi-Fi, and those that don't, have enough I/O to be capable of an IR-based classroom LAN.
softwaredoug 2 days ago||
When our kids learned about substance abuse, they talk about teenage brains being in a critical period. If they get addicted to a substance, while their brain is developing, the addiction runs deeper than if they were an adult. It's a much bigger challenge to break free of the addiction.
Simulacra 2 days ago||
I like this, phones have become too severe of a distraction throughout the school day, especially in lessons. I don't mind if students have their phone at lunchtime, or outside of the academic time, but allowing them to have their phones in class has just been ruinous.
cestith 1 day ago||
When I was in school, way back in the Before Times, when cell phones were expensive and smartphones were in their infancy, cards or dice would get confiscated and held until the end of the day if the administration suspected they could be used for even simulating gambling.
aprilthird2021 1 day ago|
I grew up in a similar time. Back then there was a huge negative emphasis on gambling and now in the world of PrizePicks and DraftKings, I kinda see why people were so down on it. These instant gambling machines are disasters, and we should never have allowed them
alberth 1 day ago||
Maybe we’ll get back to an era where people connected & form friendships and bonds in a non digital way. Like the video below.

https://youtube.com/shorts/CUfwcIVq6H0?feature=shared

jrochkind1 2 days ago||
> Alia Soliman, a senior at Bronx Science, said cards “are making a big comeback.” She said kids are playing poker when they’re done with their work in some classes. Fellow students reported a surge in Uno.

In my day in the US midwest, it was Euchre.

neRok 2 days ago|
I imagine some would like to play pokemon cards, but the kids are priced out!
ozgrakkurt 1 day ago||
I remember begging my father for yu-gi-oh cards, monopoly and beyblades. they were really expensive
rickydroll 2 days ago||
Somebody should introduce these kids to Meshtastic. The Lily T-Deck series features a built-in keyboard and screen, eliminating the need for a phone. I'm sure someone bright could put a repeater up in a place administrators would never find to cover the entire school.
orionsbelt 2 days ago||
Sounds delightful. Now do it for adults.

- an adult phone addict

j-bos 2 days ago||
Adults need to be adults and manage themselves, with or without help. Otherwise they're children.
SchemaLoad 2 days ago|||
What we really need is regulation of the tech companies driving the addiction. We've long since discovered that megacorps engineering addiction are more powerful than individuals ability to resist.
lanfeust6 1 day ago|||
Adding to this, I never understood why it's considered so addictive. Smartphones are banal and frustrating to me. However, I'm often on my personal laptop.

I suspect there is something to the refrain that phones are a crutch in those cases where our range of actions is constrained. Through habit they then reflexively take over in other contexts.

j-bos 1 day ago||
This seems like reasobable mechanism, also matches what I saw of older generations developing parasocial relationships with soap operas, often started after being bedridden for some weeks.
wmeredith 2 days ago||
iPhone dumbphone https://stopa.io/post/297
lanfeust6 1 day ago||
Further to the truism that constraining and micromanaging kids have driven up smartphone use: adults do this to themselves too, particularly parents. Watching kids can be fun, but then again, it can be incredibly boring most of the time. You're not going to constantly ask banal questions; kids will often be creative on their own. But as a parent, you're compelled to hover. And hover. And do nothing.

Probably having more of a "village" to help (grandparents especially) would relieve pressure. Also, multiple kids will engage with each other more instead of looking to parents for all social stimulation as only-children.

lrvick 2 days ago|
I am all for phone bans in schools, but if the alternative is forcing them to use googleshit, and agree to googleshit terms of service, also hard pass.

I would insist any kid of mine be allowed to use open source tools that can be studied and improved, or nothing at all.

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