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Posted by ingve 12 hours ago

The case against social media is stronger than you think(arachnemag.substack.com)
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homeonthemtn 7 hours ago|
Social media is a cancer on our society. It is both the asbestos and cigarettes of our generation.
SapporoChris 4 hours ago||
Asbestos was used in cigarette filters, notably in Kent Micronite cigarettes from 1952 to 1956.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_(cigarette)

infotainment 6 hours ago|||
Agreed, and I feel like the right answer might be to treat it exactly like cigarettes. For example:

1. Ban in most places except very specific ones. E.g., "would you like to sit in the social media use section today?"

2. Make it extremely expensive to access and use. This would likely do wonders to cut down on use, just as it did for cigarettes.

lanfeust6 5 hours ago||
You're on social media right now. Probably you could better qualify what it is you think is a problem.
1970-01-01 6 hours ago||
You reap what you sew. Stupid and uninformed voices receiving equivalent status to wise scientific experts was a mistake. Witnessing the flat Earth crowd growing over the decades encapsulates everything wrong with social media.
giardini 1 hour ago||
"1970-01-01" stepped in it 5 hours ago by saying: >"You reap what you sew.<

"You reap what you sow" is correct. You sew cloth with a needle and thread but sow seeds by throwing them on fertile ground, hoping they will sprout, grow and you will later reap a harvest.

cindyllm 6 hours ago||
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cramsession 7 hours ago||
Without social media, we'd be left with mainstream media, which is a very narrow set of channels that those in power can control. Despite rampant censorship on social media, it's still the best way to circumvent propaganda and give people a voice.
sethammons 7 hours ago||
> it's still the best way to circumvent propaganda and give people a voice.

I think it can amplify propaganda but still give people a voice, which is better than no voice I think

nicce 7 hours ago|||
Without social media, people would go out and talk face-to-face or even arrange meetings, like before social media.
cramsession 6 hours ago||
That's not media, it's communication with people you know.
n1b0m 7 hours ago|||
Its still propaganda just from Russian and Chinese bots.
cramsession 6 hours ago||
The vast majority of bots are from Israel.
add-sub-mul-div 7 hours ago||
The idea of social media reducing net propaganda is a wild take.
synecdoche 13 minutes ago|||
Without it, there would be no way to get information from the source. In msm all we get is the msm view. When compared to what was actually said, done or written then you have a chance to make your own opinion. You only then can compare what is in msm and what is not. And the bias is relentless. Which makes it a propaganda machine.

Of course there is garbage in social media as there is in every field. Find the source if there is one recorded. Msm rarely if ever refer to any. And no wonder. It would risk undermining their publication, which they peddle as unbiased.

cramsession 6 hours ago|||
We would have no idea what was going on in Gaza if it wasn't for social media. It really exposed how biased (which probably isn't even a strong enough word) our msm is.
xnx 8 hours ago||
Social media would be entirely different if there were no monetization on political content. There's a whole lot of ragebaiting/engagement-farming for views. I don't know how to filter for political content, but it's worth a shot. People are free to say whatever they want, but they don't need to get paid for it.
stevage 8 hours ago||
Strangely I never see political content on YouTube. Maybe the algorithm worked out quickly I'm simply not interested. Whereas twitter/mastodon/bluesky are awash in it, to the point of making those platforms pretty unusable for me.

I guess the difference is that YouTube content creators don't casually drop politics in because it will alienate half their audience and lose revenue. Whereas on those other platforms the people I follow aren't doing it professionally and just share whatever they feel like sharing.

timeon 7 hours ago||
Interesting, I do not see politics on Mastodon, while YouTube recommends me not just random politics, but conspiracy theories about politics.

On Mastodon, those I follow do not post about politics and if they do it is hidden behind content warning.

YouTube is probably location based as I have no account there and that type of content is relatively mainstream where I live.

ants_everywhere 7 hours ago||
they get paid in political power that's why it's so ragebait driven
alexfromapex 10 hours ago||
My main case against at this point is that everything you post will be accessible by "bad" AI
drraah 6 hours ago||
I've seen numerous posts from researchers on X demonstrating that people high in psychopathy, low in empathy, and low in cognitive ability are overrepresented on social media. They post more often and fuel polarisation in politics. The extremism is entertaining to others and rewarded with exposure. Political moderates don't tend to get as emotionally invested and are less likely to voice their opinions in the first place. But underlying the extremism and polarisation are real issues. There's often an overlooked middleground that technology can step in to highlight
gerdesj 6 hours ago||
"In conclusion: " "...in particular in the U.S., but probably across Europe as well. ..."

The world is rather larger than the US and Europe. I physically endure myopia and frankly Mr Witkin seems to figuratively suffer from it.

I need only mention the name: TikTok.

jparishy 8 hours ago||
We, consumers online, are sliced and diced on every single dimension possible in order to optimize our clicks for another penny.

As a side benefit, when you do this enough, the pendulum that goes over the middle line for any of these arbitrary-but-improves-clicks division builds momentum until it hits the extremes. On either side-- it doesn't matter, cause it will swing back just as hard, again and again.

As a side benefit the back and forth of the pendulum is very distracting to the public so we do not pay attention to who is pushing it. Billions of collective hours spent fighting with no progress except for the wallets of rich ppl.

It almost feels like a conspiracy but I think it's just the direct, natural result of the vice driven economy we have these days

profsummergig 8 hours ago|
I used to be disappointed in myself that I didn't understand Discord well enough to use it.

Now I'm glad I never understood it well enough to use it.

stevage 8 hours ago|
Huh. I'm on a few discords. They're very easy and obvious to use, and I really enjoy them. And because they are generally well divided by channel, it's easy to avoid the bits you don't want.
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