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Posted by jrepinc 10/14/2025

KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser(kde.org)
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pjmlp 10/14/2025|
Happy birthday KDE, outside XFCE, KDE is the desktop I would go back to if I ever reconsider building a Linux desktop again.

Has all the developer goodies with KDevelop, written with tooling that empowers UI/UX development workflows, has a proper component system with much better tooling than COM, quite configurable without extensions all over the place.

Signed, a disillusioned former Gtkmm user, with how GNOME turned out.

noisy_boy 10/14/2025|
For a sec I read it as a former Gkrellm user
ak_111 10/14/2025||
I am used to having "Emacs key-bindings" on both gnome and Mac (so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application, such as chrome).

For some strange reason this seems to be very hard thing to set up on KDE or am I missing something?

kps 10/14/2025||
> so that for example ctrl-a will always go to the beginning of a textbox no matter the application

And Control-W will always erase word no matter the application?

This is actually a major reason I use KDE: I can, with some effort, change keyboard shortcuts to avoid conflicting with terminal Control keys. It doesn't solve the textbox problem, though.

(I don't use Emacs bindings, but Control-W erase word came in the ‘new’ TTY driver in BSD2 in 1983 — predating Windows 1.0, incidentally — likely copying TOPS-20.)

kace91 10/14/2025|||
There are projects like kinto that achieve very good results at making Linux behave like macOS on shortcuts (cmd instead of ctrl only when it makes sense, etc).

I’m not sure how they do it, i suspect it’s mostly a manual grind for configuring the most common shortcuts and apps, but there might be some idea there that can be reused for the eMacs setup.

tmtvl 10/14/2025|||
On paper KDE's system is more elegant and practical than GNOME's. In practice the keyboard shortcut management via exporting and importing is rather unwieldy. Then again, if you want to go deep into setting up your shortcuts to something properly usable, it's a fair bit more convenient with KDE, where all your shortcuts are in a single place, than with GNOME, where you have to look in all the gconf categories and it's a right pain to find conflicts.
pedrogpimenta 10/14/2025|||
I'm not sure this is the reason or a big reason, but I think this is very difficult to do in Linux, sadly.

What makes Linux great is also its biggest handicap, in my opinion, when it comes to User Experience: the fragmentation of UI frameworks and libraries.

I imagine having this control between Qt, GTK and other UI libraries and electron-type-apps os difficult if not impossible.

ak_111 10/14/2025||
It works perfectly on Gnome (ubuntu) though. There is simple toggle you have to do in one of the standard control panels as well.

I am surprised this issue is not gaining traction with the KDE crowd, as I imagine a substantial part of the userbase are emacs users and used to emacs keybindings.

asimovDev 10/14/2025|||
omg I found my people. Ctrl+A and Ctrl+E are so engraved into my muscle memory that it always takes a moment to readjust when using non Mac OSes. I didn't know Gnome also uses those as a KDE fan
pedrogpimenta 10/14/2025|||
As I thought: you can set a different shortcut for "Beginning of line" and it will work in Qt input fields but, sadly, not others. I don't know if this is the step you're on.
sgc 10/14/2025||
This seemed like something relatively easy for chatgpt to handle. The response is a bit complicated compared to what it sounds like you are looking for (it's not from the kde settings gui), but still a two minute "fix".
OsrsNeedsf2P 10/14/2025||
Did the response ChatGPT give you actually work, or did it confidently hallucinate?
sgc 10/14/2025||
It was easy enough and I have enough experience with kde and linux to know it would work. I have no interest in doing this although I do similar things with "Input Remapper". My point, which I tried to state kindly, was it is not that hard and not worth complaining about - basically a 2025 "Let me google that for you".
ezst 10/15/2025||
And the 1998 approach of just Googling it works perfectly, why would you even bring GPT to this?
sgc 10/15/2025||
For the same reason I would use gpt to solve something basic like this: It is the simplest and fastest way to get it done right now. I was not trying to be inflammatory, although apparently I did not understand it would be a big deal to people.
ezst 10/19/2025||
> It is the simplest and fastest way to get it done right now.

or the fastest way to get a confidently wrong words-salad. This stuff is niche AND indexed in search-engines, which makes LLMs generally not the best-suited (as proven by Gemini's answer being inferior than the search results lower down on the same search page).

> I was not trying to be inflammatory

You were not. I was just catching you at "use the right tool for the job", which often LLM is not. On a tech venue such as this, I would indeed expect this to come across as non-controversial.

rookderby 10/14/2025||
I've installed two KDE+Tumbleweed machines in the past two days. One for a friend into retro gaming and the other time for older family into solitaire/youtube. KDE is an easy drop-in for Windows. If you have a better recommendation than Tumbleweed for new people, I'm open to looking into it, but so far it's been easy and I'll probably be the one to support it.
voidon 10/14/2025||
My first experience with KDE was the beta release that came with SuSE 5.2 in the late 90s. I still daily drive KDE, though very much has changed since then, it still is familiar.
indymike 10/14/2025||
KDE has been my daily driver since 2008. The upgrade from KDE2 to KDE3 was a nightmare, but once the dust settled, KDE became quite good... One of my favorite things about KDE is how they have left the user a wide berth to customize their experience. After almost 20 years of tweaking, I find moving to other desktop GUIs to be very painful. And to this day Dolphin is the gold standard for file managers.

Thanks, KDE team!

NoboruWataya 10/14/2025||
It's been well over a decade (maybe closer to 2 in fact) since I have used KDE, and I'm happy with my more minimalist setup based on Arch+AwesomeWM, but I think KDE is a great project and like to follow its progress. It seems to have a great suite of software - the KDE versions of common applications often seem to be among the best FOSS options out there.
robertlagrant 10/14/2025||
I've installed KDE on my Ubuntu system instead of Gnome and it is pretty nice. It feels slightly more integrated, so lots of regular UI actions feel slicker and simpler.
nallerooth 10/14/2025||
Thanks for all the work done over the years! I've donated to the project many times and it always feels good to support something I enjoy using every day.
bovermyer 10/14/2025||
With this hitting multiple communications media for me independently over the last few hours, it has me considering whether I can switch from Windows to Linux for my gaming PC again.

Last time I tried, I used Ubuntu, and I experienced problems with several games via Proton (e.g., The Finals, Fields of Mistria, and Civilization VII, among others). I checked ProtonDB, and it looks like those issues may be resolved.

However, I also wonder what people are using to replace iCloud/OneDrive/Dropbox/whatever on Linux. Or, if they don't use such a thing in the first place, how they handle off-site backups of files and images.

cardanome 10/14/2025||
Dropbox works fine on Linux so you should be good. OneDrive has a community developed client, not sure how good it works.

Gaming works great on Linux, arguably better than on Windows. Show stoppers are mostly aggressive anti-cheat or DRM stuff so multiplayer can still suck but for anyone doing single player it is amazing. I have a windows installation I can dual boot into but I haven't in like half a year, I prefer gaming on Linux.

Linux Mint with Cinnamon has a traditional Desktop close to Windows. I highly recommend checking it out.

bovermyer 10/14/2025||
My last attempt was Debian-flavored Mint.

This go around, I'm thinking of trying Kubuntu. Specifically 25.10 Kubuntu, since apparently Wayland fixes a lot of the problems I had trying to game on Linux before.

heavyset_go 10/14/2025|||
You can use OneDrive and Dropbox on Linux, but to answer your question: Nextcloud
bovermyer 10/14/2025||
Several people now have recommended Nextcloud as hosted by Hetzner. I will have to look into this.
ireadmevs 10/14/2025|||
At work I use OneDriveGUI with no problems.

- https://github.com/bpozdena/OneDriveGUI

morshu9001 10/14/2025||
I tried recently and unfortunately had to bail out
setopt 10/14/2025|
I used Linux for a long time (since ~2002), but for the past years I've been daily-driving a MacBook.

I'm now switching back, and will likely go with either Gnome or KDE. I've used XFCE, i3wm, etc. for years before – and briefly tried Sway too before I switched to Mac – but from what I've read it sounds like the "big" DEs make life easier post-Wayland.

Anyone want to share why you currently choose KDE over Gnome?

haspok 10/14/2025||
Gnome UI sucks. It is ugly and non-customizable without plugins, or whatever you call that addon that enables you to put your clock on the right... I'm sure the UI makes more sense on a tablet or a phone with touch controls, but I just want to use it on my laptop with a regular monitor and with a mouse (or touchpad).

KDE has sane defaults and looks and feels like Windows UI from the best era. It just works.

morshu9001 10/14/2025||
"It just works" is the important part. The style doesn't matter a whole lot if things aren't working right. Is this other guy's comment about GTK not a real problem? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45581866
haspok 10/14/2025||
I don't understand that comment. The K-suite of apps is just as comprehensive as the G-suite of apps - most people don't really care or notice anyway. No, I did not notice that Firefox uses GTK - seriously, who cares, and it is even shipped as a snap or flatpak. (I would even say that Qt is far more capable and developer friendly than GTK, so I'd pick Qt over GTK _any time_.)

There is one app that I installed recently, that used GTK and I noticed it - the ProtonVPN Connect UI, it looks a bit funny, but integrated seamlessly in the whole system (KDE) including the tray icon. It just works. What is the problem?

simion314 10/14/2025|||
>Anyone want to share why you currently choose KDE over Gnome?

GNOME is like a tool that was designed to fit the average user so if you are not the average user (like you know the joke where the average person has 1 testicle) then you have to mold yourself to fit into GNOME (or try to hack it with unsuported extensions that might make it more tolerable) in KDE you have nobs to tweak it to fit you smoothly (like for example with one checkbox I can make the Left Alt to be a Ctrl button so i do not bend my hand and fingers to use my many Ctrl+keys shortcuts).

IMO use GNOME only if you are the typical GNOME user, that prefer to bend themselves over and not to adapt the tool to fit . Avoid KDE if too many options cause you some anxiety or buffer overflow.

angiolillo 10/14/2025|||
KDE is a wonderful desktop environment. It's been a while since I've used it but from what I've seen it grows and improves every year.

Gnome is more opinionated. There are fewer options overall, the core apps are generally much simpler, and it assumes a specific way of interacting with your computer. You can change this with extensions, but if you are dead set on a specific workflow and need to venture beyond a small set of widely-used and well-supported extensions then it may feel like you're swimming upstream.

I personally prefer Gnome because I don't mind trying out new workflows and it ended up being a good fit. But I understand why many "hacker types" would prefer KDE, and (assuming they've ironed out stability and release scheduling issues) I agree with other comments that KDE would make for a better default experience, especially for people coming from Windows.

Thankfully, both exist and you can try them and see what works for you!

voidon 10/14/2025|||
I guess because the defaults suits me better, and the configurability is exposed well and I don't have to load special tools or commands to change stuff.

I used to run complicated setups back in the days, with black/flux/openbox or even enlightenment (16), but now I don't really have the interest or time for tweaking DEs.

virtualmic 10/14/2025|||
> Anyone want to share why you currently choose KDE over Gnome?

Just to give you an opposite perspective...I was a long time Kubuntu / KDE Neon user (almost 10 years) and shifted to Gnome couple of years back (Ubuntu 22.04), now running 24.04. It's been very stable and out of the way. I am not sure why people are complaining about UI, for me it's barely visible on my two screens. All open-source and proprietary apps I use run well and without glitch. It took me an hour to get used to the "Gnome" way when I shifted.

tmtvl 10/14/2025|||
I don't want to install an extension which will break next time there's a new GNOME release just to be able to set my clock to '%A %F %R' format.
jlpcsl 10/14/2025|||
I switched from Gnome to KDE Plasma because I find it more stable and more integrated since many of the features I otherwise miss are out of the box in KDE Plasma, and you do not need third party extensions which are quite unstable. Also later found out Plasma is much more configurable and personalizable so I xan really fit it best to my orefered workflow. I also find KDE developers listen to their users much more.
nargek 10/14/2025|||
I find that Gnome opiniated workflow can easily get in my way. KDE feels more natural and it really grew on me after using it for quite some times.
setopt 10/15/2025||
Thanks for all the replies! I'll probably try Fedora KDE first in that case :)

Last time I used KDE as my main desktop was v3.x, I switched away once v4.0 was released (at launch it was slow, unstable, and lacked many features). But it seems KDE 6 is likely to fit my personality more than recent Gnome versions.

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