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Posted by AndrewDucker 4 days ago

ChatGPT's Atlas: The Browser That's Anti-Web(www.anildash.com)
507 points | 215 commentspage 3
darthnebula 15 hours ago|
Yes, if I type Taylor Swift Showgirls I get some helpful information and a lot of links, but not her website. It isn't very different than what Google Gemini displays at the top of Google search results.

Is it a webpage? Well... it displays in a browser...

But if I type Taylor Swift, I get links to her website, instagram, facebook, etc.

Is it a webpage? Well... it displays in a browser...

This isn't Web 2.0, Anil. Things change.

hollowturtle 18 hours ago||
Tangent but related, if only google search would do a serious come back instead of not finding nothing anymore, we would have a tool to compare ai to. Sure gemini integration might still be a thing but with actual working search results
tigroferoce 18 hours ago|
You should try Kagi for this experience.
BrenBarn 20 hours ago||
The thing about command lines is off base, but overall the article is right that the ickiness of this thing is exceeded only by its evil.
dangoodmanUT 22 hours ago||
> There were a tiny handful of incredible nerds who thought this was fun, mostly because 3D graphics and the physical touch of another human being hadn't been invented yet.

:skull:

rich_sasha 21 hours ago||
The SV playbook is to create a product, make it indispensable and monopolise it. Microsoft did it with office software. Payment companies want to be monopolies. Social media are of course the ultimate monopolies - network effects mean there is only one winner.

So I guess the only logical next step for Big AI is to destroy the web, once they have squeezed every last bit out of it. Or at least make it dependent on them. Who needs news sites when OpenAI can do it? Why blog - just prompt your BlogLLM with an idea. Why comment on blogs - your agent will do it for you. All while avoid child porn with 97% accuracy - somerhing human curated content surely cannot be trusted to do.

So I am 0% surprised.

bazmattaz 14 hours ago|
I’m not sure. I think we’ll live through a few years of AI slop before human created content becomes very popular again.

I imagine a future where websites (like news outlets or blogs) will have something like a “100% human created” label on it. It will be a mark of pride for them to show off and they’ll attract users because of it

anthk 16 hours ago||
>Sorry, I can't do that.

'Modern' Z-Machine games (v5 version compared to the original v3 one from Infocom) will allow you to do that and far more. By 'modern' I meant from the early 90's and up. Even more with v8 games.

>This was also why people hated operating systems like MS-DOS, and why even all the Linux users reading this right now are doing so in a graphical user interface.

The original v3 Z Machine parser (raw one) was pretty much limited compared to the v5 one. Even more with against the games made with Inform6 and the Inform6 English library targetting the v5 version.

Go try yourself. Original Zork from MIT (Dungeon) converted into a v5 ZMachine game:

https://iplayif.com/?story=https%3A%2F%2Fifarchive.org%2Fif-...

Spot the differences. For instance, you could both say 'take the rock' and, later, say 'drop it'.

   >take mat
   Taken.
 
   >drop it
   Dropped.
 
   >take the mat
   Taken.
 
   >drop mat
   Dropped.
 
   >open mailbox
   You open the mailbox, revealing a small leaflet.
 
   >take leaftlet
   You can't see any such thing.
 
   >take leaflet
   Taken.
 
  >drop it
   Dropped.
Now, v5 games are from late 80's/early 90's. There's Curses, Jigsaw, Spider and Web ... v8 games are like Anchorhead, pretty advanced for its time:

https://ifdb.org/viewgame?id=op0uw1gn1tjqmjt7

You can either download the Z8 file and play it with Frotz (Linux/BSD), WinFrotz, or Lectrote under Android and anything else. Also, online with the web interpreter.

Now, the 'excuses' about the terseness of the original Z3 parser are now nearly void; because with Puny Inform a lot of Z3 targetting games (for 8086 DOS PC's, C64's, Spectrums, MSX'...) have a slightly improved parser against the original Zork game.

k__ 17 hours ago||
They gotta do this.

If they don't put AI in every tool, they won't get new training data.

ValveFan6969 18 hours ago||
>I had typed "Taylor Swift" in a browser, and the response had literally zero links to Taylor Swift's actual website. If you stayed within what Atlas generated, you would have no way of knowing that Taylor Swift has a website at all.

Sounds like the browser did you a favor. Wonder if she'll be suing.

fiatpandas 22 hours ago|
1.0 - algorithmic ranking of real content, with direct links

2.0 - algorithmic feeds of real content with no outbound links - stay in the wall

3.0 - slop infects rankings and feeds, real content gets sublimated

4.0 - algorithmic feeds become only slop

5.0 - no more feeds or rankings, but on demand generative streams of slop within different walled slop gardens

6.0 - 4D slop that feeds itself, continuously turning in on itself and regenerating

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