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Posted by LorenDB 2 days ago

Keep Android Open(keepandroidopen.org)
2640 points | 856 commentspage 6
bogwog 1 day ago|
I wonder if filing a complaint at the FTC is a waste of time due to the current government shutdown?
ape4 1 day ago||
Perhaps Android could run sideloaded apps in a container. I know Android apps are already somewhat contained by userid.
NoobPretender 1 day ago|
perhaps the users should be allowed to install whatever they want on the devices they own? this "security" narrative google spews is weak, considering how much malware fails to be detected by play store
wiredpancake 1 day ago||
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ksec 1 day ago||
Related question, is Modern Android as good if not better than iOS? Or does iOS still have an edge?
clumsysmurf 2 days ago||
Has anyone seen Andy Rubin publicly comment on Google's stewardship of Android? I wonder what he thinks about his creation and the way its evolving.
ocdtrekkie 2 days ago|
Considering Andy Rubin is a massive creep, let's not have him publicly comment about anything at all, ever: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andy-rubin-google-settlement-se...
novoreorx 1 day ago||
Don't be a jerk, if you sign this, you should sign "Make iOS Open" first
utopiah 1 day ago|
Why? iOS never pretended to be open.
warkdarrior 1 day ago||
So what? I don't care what iOS or Android pretend to be, I care that they are not open.
zoobab 1 day ago||
The European Commission public consultation is closed. Maybe that would be worth adding a note.
dude0101 1 day ago||
Seriously, is this launched by Google to keep people from doing something real? Kindergarten...
deanc 2 days ago||
EDIT: apologies I misunderstood that this is limiting third-party distribution. I am of course, in favour of this.

Original comment:

I don't want this. The App Store on iOS has its flaws, but it's a curated system that has a lot of checks in place to prevent malware. I have never felt unsafe on iOS and it's the primary reason I've not joined Android and the Play Store's wild west.

adithyassekhar 2 days ago||
I can't emphasize this enough, your comment is 100% wrong.

This is about only allowing play verified apps. Play store will remain whatever you think of it regardless of this move.

franczesko 2 days ago||
What this has to do with the topic, if you're on iOS?
deanc 2 days ago||
Because I'd actually be interested in an Android phone if Google locks down the play store to legitimate actors, increases the barrier for entry and improves the quality and safety of submissions. Which this looks to be doing?
celsoazevedo 2 days ago|||
This is not Google locking down the Play Store, it's them restricting distribution outside the Play Store, which you don't have to do in any case.
deanc 2 days ago||
Apologies. I did _NOT_ gather that from reading the OP.
koiueo 2 days ago||||
Why would you be interested in Android?

Isn't iOS a pinnacle of UI/UX loaded with most innovative features in the world backed by the most genius CEOs of all times?

SXX 2 days ago||||
You should just check submission link contents before commenting. This just locks down apps outside of google play.
wiseowise 1 day ago|||
> Android phone if Google locks down the play store to legitimate actors, increases the barrier for entry and improves the quality and safety of submissions

Locks down how? This is literally how it is from the start. Ignoring the fact that it is completely unrelated to the topic, this is just wrong regardless.

cryptoneo 1 day ago||
The play store ID process is ridiculous, their AI is making up BS why it wouldn't let your documents pass, clearly no human in the loop.

In the EU we can report this to: comp-market-information@ec.europa.eu

State that: Google is abusing its dominant position on the market for Android-app distribution by “denial of access to an essential facility”. Google is not complying with their "gatekeeper" DMA obligations (Article 5(4), Article 6(12), Article 11, Article 15)

Attach evidence.

Financial penalty is the only way to pressure this company to abide law.

aprilfoo 1 day ago|
The EU's DMA team replied to a previous inquiry:

> [...] the Digital Markets Act (‘DMA’) obliges gatekeepers like Google to effectively allow the distribution of apps on their operating system through third party app stores or the web. At the same time, the DMA also permits Google to introduce strictly necessary and proportionate measures to ensure that third-party software apps or app stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system or to enable end users to effectively protect security. [...]

They seem to be on it, but no surprise: it's all about Google's claims for "security" and "ongoing dialogue gatekeepers".

Freedom to use own hardware or software, no.

runiq 2 days ago|
Unfortunately the feedback period for the European Digital Fairness Act has been closed since October 24th. Does anyone know of another way to appeal to my European overlords^H representatives?
aembleton 1 day ago|
Write to your mep
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