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Posted by Philpax 11/12/2025

Steam Frame(store.steampowered.com)
1915 points | 698 commentspage 2
bastawhiz 11/13/2025|
It really cannot be understated how big of a deal this is. The tech here is impressive AND they're not trying to lock you in. Practically speaking it's the only VR headset that holds real-world appeal for the vast majority of gamers, because it plays the games they're already playing.
Pfhortune 11/12/2025||
At last! I really enjoyed my time with the Oculus Quest 2, but could not stomach having Meta in my house/on my network. I sold it and resolved to either wait until I could get a good deal on an Index or Valve came around with something new, and now I can look forward to VR again!
torginus 11/12/2025||
Whoo - first party support - including a graphics stack on ARM!

I hope this means the GPU and drivers is advanced enough to run fully featured modern video games.

Windows for ARM was kinda sunk by the fact that the GPU wasn't compatible enough due to the crappy drivers and outdated GPU uArch optimized for mobile games.

I'm still kinda on the fence about VR, but I hope ARM + Linux succeeds in a big way and this'll make a truly handheld Steam Deck possible.

seabombs 11/12/2025||
Brilliant, I'm anxiously awaiting Australian pricing details (and release dates...) but could definitely seeing myself getting one of these as my first VR device, and the controller looks great too.

Being able to run games on device (and on ARM) is very cool, but I wonder if there is a cheaper/lighter/longer-battery-life version of this that is stream only? That's probably a better fit for me personally, I can't imagine not having a streaming device nearby when I would be using it.

Also hate to be picky, but looks like the frame controllers pair directly to the headset so maybe can't be used on their own? Would be nice to use them standalone too.

month13 11/13/2025|
I really hope it's not going to take years to be sold in Australia, like the Steam Deck took.
pcchristie 11/13/2025|||
I'm fairly sure/wishful thinking that the reason the last round of Valve hardware was very late/absent in Australia was because it was the time that the ACCC took Valve to court for its no refunds policy (and won). Now that Valve has rectified that and are in good standing in Australia, I'm hoping we see all this new hardware ASAP, alongside the rest of the world.
ehnto 11/13/2025|||
The VR base stations and controllers were/are also hard to get.
circuit10 11/12/2025||
One of the most interesting parts of this to me that not many people are talking about is what their approach will be to making Steam games work on ARM…

I assume they will have put a lot of work into an emulation layer (maybe an existing one like FEX) to make it usable similar to what they did with Proton? This could be really good for the Linux ARM ecosystem in general

preisschild 11/12/2025||
Apparently they are heavily funding FEX-emu now and are using that
rbits 11/12/2025||
Yes! Steam on ARM finally! I hope it works well
srjek 11/12/2025||
Steam Frame is running SteamOS on ARM, and is capable of playing games standalone, which implies ARM support in Steam. Through granted, it could be in a limited form.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 11/12/2025||
They'll need that either way if they want to get back onto macOS, even if it's separate binaries and not a translation layer. At this point I think Steam basically doesn't work on Mac? Since the x64 Macs are legacy and the new ones are aarch64
SchemaLoad 11/13/2025|||
It technically works since ARM macs can still run x86 binaries. But it's so slow and buggy, and the selection of playable games so slim that there is almost no point.
preisschild 11/12/2025|||
I doubt fex-emu works on macos.

But isnt that what Rosetta2 is for on mac anyway?

iamcreasy 11/13/2025||
Rosetta2 will be discontinued.
jagermo 11/13/2025||
they are porting FEX to Proton, and according to the VRUpload article linked it has "shockingly little performance impact". This could be fun.

https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX

rudimentary_phy 11/13/2025||
I've actually just recently started using my Quest 3 again through virtual desktop. I found the sharpening feature to actually make text look good enough that I'm able to work in it for hours uninterrupted, mostly writing papers and coding.

I'm super excited for this launch and for all the crazy open source builds, mods, and fun that are going to come from an open VR system (or at least that's my hope).

barrenko 11/13/2025|
I am unable to parse announcements such as for this Valve product. Could I use this as a thing through which to spawn multiple monitors and code / read papers?
rudimentary_phy 11/13/2025||
Definitely. There will be apps that will allow this (Virtual Desktop Classic is on steam already), and I foresee some neat things coming from its more open environment.

On the other hand, it will be highly subjective. I have found that the sharpening algorithms they have put into apps like Virtual Desktop to be sufficient for me to read text with, but it will probably bother some people. The Quest 3 and Valve’s will have very similar resolutions.

And although it looks like this Valve product will actually be quite light, the weight could be another factor in its use over many hours.

For some people, XR glasses with OLED screens might provide a better experience as well if you are looking solely for monitor or tv support. I kind of like going to an entirely new environment to work in for a while, so I appreciate the VR aspect, but if you are looking only for screen support, XR glasses may be the better choice (there are quite a few models, though, and I unfortunately don’t know the market well enough to make suggestions on that).

jackhalford 11/12/2025||
Nice to finally have a hackable headset on the market. I’ve been using the dji goggles for fpv flying because of vendor lock in. I wonder I could use these with OpenIPC to fly fpv with a fully open video stack.
robocat 11/13/2025|
I'm looking forward to seeing what hacks get done to the devices and what software is dreamed up.
thefunnyman 11/13/2025||
I'm surprised no one is talking about the fact that the headset is ARM and that valve has been heavily contributing to the translation layer FEX.

I love my steam deck, but lately find myself reaching for emulation handhelds like the Retroid Pocket 5 more due to smaller size, especially when I'm leaving the house. There's already projects like GameNative that try to hack steam onto these devices, but if valve offers an official client on Android and other arm devices that would be incredible.

Edit: Some interesting insights in the FEX FAQ about why it's not a great fit for Android right now [0]. Interested to see if this ARM version of steamos is installable on other devices though. RP5 can already run alternatives like Rocknix

[0] https://wiki.fex-emu.com/index.php/FAQ

skywal_l 11/12/2025|
> Steam Frame Controllers: Powered by AA batteries (rated 40 hours)

Yes, I want to see standard batteries being used more. Too bad they didn't go with this on the Steam Controller.

mrguyorama 11/12/2025||
I actually prefer rechargeable batteries.

But rechargeable lithium batteries in AA form factor are cheap and cheerful. Even low quality ones will get 20 hours in that situation. So I have no more room to complain.

Valve is weirdly good at making controllers efficient. The original steam controller could get 80 hours out of two AAs if you turn off rumble.

krzyk 11/12/2025||
Why? It is a bummer to keep them, buy them when suddently they stop working, etc.

While chargeable needs just a usb-c socket.

akdev1l 11/12/2025|||
Devices with internal batteries basically have embedded expiration dates.

Standard AAA or AA can be rechargeable so you don’t need to keep buying more. I’d suggest buying like a 100 pack or something, they’re not expensive.

archon810 11/12/2025|||
The ideal would be rechargeable AA battery support with a built-in USB-C that would natively support charging said AA battery.
SchemaLoad 11/13/2025||
AA batteries have lots of different chemistries and they require different chargers or can't be charged at all.
WorldPeas 11/13/2025||||
At this point so many battery packs use the 2 double-a batteries side-by-side, I wish they just sold those as a usb-c rechargeable cartridge, that would make a lot of sense
benoau 11/12/2025|||
You can also get a USB charger for them which is very convenient.
xmcqdpt2 11/13/2025||||
Check this out

https://addison-electronique.com/en/aaa-li-poly-rechargeable...

Has technology gone too far

WhyNotHugo 11/13/2025||||
I’ve seen mice with rechargeable AA batteries. Plugging in the mouse recharged the battery (the mouse is basically a battery charger). But you can also quickly swap them in and out if the cable is inconvenient. Best of both worlds.
foresto 11/13/2025|||
Allow me to recommend low self-discharge NiMH batteries (Eneloop brand is excellent) and a good charger made for that chemistry.
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