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Posted by Philpax 20 hours ago

Steam Frame(store.steampowered.com)
1563 points | 579 commentspage 6
sensanaty 15 hours ago|
Probably a dumb question, I might've missed it in the description somewhere, but I assume the onboard PC is mostly to facilitate the streaming functionality, and it will stream from your main machine to the headset right?

I'm very curious about the latency if that's the case. This might be the trigger for me to get into VR finally, but I'm worried that if there's noticeable lag in the stream that I'll basically cover myself in vomit from motion sickness lol

ehnto 9 hours ago||
The latency introduced by the network link will be tiny compared to most games total frame latency. I would prefer a cable link just so I don't have to worry about charging it ever, but I think the wireless link will be fine from a lag perspective.
boopmaster 14 hours ago||
it supports standalone, may allow sideloading apks too, sounds more powerful than quest3 and also - no lag because the 6Ghz wifi doesn't go through the router, so long as you are close to the PCVR source - it's probably lag free. how did you do?
slg 18 hours ago||
It's interesting to see them putting more attention on playing traditional games with this. I have long thought that the most broadly viable use for VR headsets in gaming is giving users a big screen to play their regular games. There just doesn't actually appear to be much market for true VR games considering all the complicating factors like motion sickness or requiring a big play area. It reminds me of the Nintendo Wii. Taking turns playing Beat Saber with a few of your friends is fun just like Wii Sports was, but in the end people are going to spend a lot more time sitting on their couch to play something more traditional like Mario Kart.
iamcreasy 14 hours ago||
Will SteamFrame ARM support paired with Alyssa Rosenzweig's work - large amount of Steam games are very close to be able to run on mac hardware, right?
zhynn 13 hours ago||
Give it a try: https://fex-emu.com/
pornel 14 hours ago||
Apple already has excellent x86 emulation. But Apple has locked-down GPU with a proprietary API that adds another unnecessary translation layer where it hurts more.
poly2it 18 hours ago||
A resolution of 2160@110° is kind of low normally, effectively being around 20 pixels per degree. I wonder if they could pull off something like what the engineers behind the Simula VR headset did, where they shift the outer resolution to the centre of the lens, up to 35.5 PPD, higher than the Apple Vision Pro. Last I checked, it was difficult to find off-the-shelf VR displays suitable for pancake lenses with a resolution above 2160, so this might be the best option.

https://simulavr.com/blog/ppd-optics/

ivanb 10 hours ago||
It was so thoughtful of them to use IR tracking. Bed time gaming becomes much easier. I wonder if there was a choice between color passthrough and IR tracking and they chose the latter. Good choice!
koolala 6 hours ago|
Night vision computer goggles!
jayd16 8 hours ago||
So are we getting a Steam Phone? If not, why not?
VikingCoder 18 hours ago||
They mention tracking the new Steam Controller, too.

Which makes me wonder if they'll make a new Steam Deck that has the IR emitters in it, so the Frame could track the Deck?

I wonder if the two working together could work well?

woile 19 hours ago||
Is the steam controller registering as a joystick and a mouse? It could be amazing to manage my current media center! As I cannot make KDE detect my current controller as a mouse
mmis1000 18 hours ago||
It seems the controller on steamdeck on windows detects as such when steam or whatever companion program is not running. Although in this state. You can only right click or left click by pressing against the pad itself.

Although on Linux side. As far as i remembered, it's up to how kernel driver developer to map the device input into different class. It would be up to valve to decide what to do in this case.

baq 7 hours ago||
> You can only right click or left click by pressing against the pad itself

The original steam controller’s LT and RT work as mouse buttons in mouse mode, too. Source: have 3 steam controllers

ehnto 6 hours ago||
Funnily enough, the Frame is running KDE Plasma so I bet it works pretty well.
AISnakeOil 17 hours ago||
Valve just defeated Meta and Xbox in one go. nice.
tripdout 12 hours ago|
> Steam Frame is a PC: ... Just like any SteamOS device, install your own apps, open a browser, do what you want: It's your PC.

Always glad to see this.

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