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Posted by Philpax 1 day ago

Steam Frame(store.steampowered.com)
1749 points | 629 commentspage 8
serf 15 hours ago|
I would've never bet on an Arch being the one that won the gaming market, but here we are. Wild.
ehnto 10 hours ago|
I am running Endeavour OS an Arch based distro, and it has been almost hassle free for games. Even less hassle than windows since I didn'teven have to download and install GPU drivers. Games with anti-cheat sometimes won't run, but that's not the fault of the OS.

I don't play just niche games either, AAA titles work too. Currently playing Arc Raiders without issue and that only just came out. Installed it via steam, started playing. 10 years ago I would never have seen this coming.

RGBCube 20 hours ago||
Finally, a modern VR headset that doesn't hate you.
lostmsu 23 hours ago||
Will the eye tracking data be directly available to developers?

Also, can I hack the OS? Specifically interested in direct VR rendering (other headsets don't allow to bypass compositor).

Melonai 22 hours ago|
Pretty sure the OS is just the same old Steam-flavored Linux distro "SteamOS" with ARM support and some new graphics pipeline stuff for the VR portion, though we don't know until it's actually out.

Though Valve has put a focus on developer ease and very low software lockdown in the recent years with their hardware, so I'd say the chances on direct rendering are quite good!

mmis1000 22 hours ago||
Wondering what window/desktop manager will valve ship with the new steam frame. Is there even a desktop/window manager work with 3d space currently? Will that be a mod of kde or something?
zozbot234 21 hours ago||
> Is there even a desktop/window manager work with 3d space currently?

The best known is perhaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass but there's many others, at varying stages of development. It will be interesting to see if custom OS/UX development is made available for this device. We'd also need quite a bit of custom development to make the OS comprehensively usable with gamepad-like controllers alone (no mouse or keyboard required). The existing work on "10-ft." media center interfaces can provide a useful starting point for this but it's far from covering all possible uses.

neves 7 hours ago||
I use glasses. Can I use it?
rowanG077 1 day ago||
This explains why alyssa rosenzweig (from asahi linux) was paid for so long by Valve. She worked on FEX.
porridgeraisin 1 day ago|
What's fex? I wasn't able to google search it (didn't try too hard admittedly)
Jordan-117 1 day ago|||
https://fex-emu.com/
Tankenstein 1 day ago|||
x86 to arm compatibility layer they are using to run windows games on the machine/frame
tym0 23 hours ago||
Steam Machine is x86_64
dathinab 17 hours ago||
The VR headset isn't and it's cable of both running games standalone and displaying games through the dongle from whatever PC you run.
antonyh 5 hours ago||
I have a Quest 2 that I don't care for, so it's caught me somewhat offguard how much I want this. The whole set please. I thought I'd just want the controller, but everything here looks exciting to me.
koolala 12 hours ago||
LinuxVR on this + the Steam Machine will be awesome.
reactordev 1 day ago||
These links open Steam app on my phone and crash immediately.
Ciantic 20 hours ago||
What the, this link also crashes KDE Plasma, when opening this link with Google Chrome. I had to reboot two times, just clicking this frame link.

Both times, first journalctl entry in the crash time is:

[drm:__nv_drm_gem_nvkms_map [nvidia_drm]] ERROR [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to map NvKmsKapiMemory 0x0000000070a84e8b

Then KWIN dump etc.

Reminding me to buy AMD next.

reactordev 19 hours ago||
This is due to a video that has drm encoding and the browser trying to decode it. The drm blob contains the codec keys in our driver and the browser is supposed to negotiate this. It fails. At least on Nvidia for you. It fails for me on safari on iOS.
seba_dos1 15 hours ago||
DRM in context of that log message is Direct Rendering Manager which is a Linux subsystem for handling GPUs; it's unrelated to Digital Rights/Restrictions Management and there are no DRM-encumbered videos on that page.
archi42 23 hours ago|||
Same here. Also happens when navigating there from within the all.

Open the website in your browser instead.

reactordev 22 hours ago||
Crashes in the browser as well. Good job Valve.
PaulKeeble 21 hours ago|
Little disappointing its not got colour passthrough. I am not convinced this generation of headsets will really be the ones that AR breaks through but still its a bit disappointing and has been useful with the latest Quest headsets. Other than that it looks fairly solid.
wlesieutre 20 hours ago|
It was noted in some articles that the "expansion port" could hypothetically be used for a color passthrough module later. But I also read that the Index had a similar port and never did much of anything with it, so that may never happen.

Definitely a cost measure to not include color passthrough, I'm not in the market to replace my Quest 3S but I'm very curious to see what price they hit with this.

Nice that it has a microSD slot so you can buy the low storage on and not be stuck with 256 GB forever.

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