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Posted by Philpax 11/12/2025

Steam Frame(store.steampowered.com)
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cadamsdotcom 11/12/2025|
Looks exciting! It would be amazing if the headset turns out to be useful for coding without a monitor. Say, in the park.
p1necone 11/12/2025||
Being in the park kinda loses its lustre when you've got a headset strapped to your face - I'd prefer a laptop with a screen that's still visible in sunlight.
thaumasiotes 11/12/2025|||
> I'd prefer a laptop with a screen that's still visible in sunlight.

I don't understand why Amazon worked so hard to replace their neutral gray Kindles with "Kindle PaperWhite".

Paper, the material, is so white that trying to read it in sunlight will hurt your eyes. Why would you want a white reading surface instead of a gray one?

seba_dos1 11/13/2025|||
The main shtick of Kindle Paperwhite, aside of the obvious ability to read in the dark, is not how white it is but rather how it can remove shadows when outside or in brightly lit rooms. You don't really notice this effect until you disable backlight and suddenly can notice the shadows cast by your fingers.
thaumasiotes 11/13/2025||
> aside of the obvious ability to read in the dark

My Kindle Keyboard came with a case that hooked into it to draw power for a nice, orange booklight. It was a much better reading-in-bed experience than the Kindle Oasis with its uniform glow. :(

danudey 11/12/2025|||
It's not actually paper-white, though, thankfully. It's more just 'not as dingy gray'
cadamsdotcom 11/12/2025|||
Yeah I’d go a sunglasses-like setup - preferably driven by my phone. But big tech companies have yet to take a shine to that use case.
z3t4 11/12/2025|||
It's doable. But you need 8k per eye to read text comfortable. But what would you use for input?
cadamsdotcom 11/12/2025||
A compact keyboard and an accelerometer based mouse replacement. All wireless of course. There are a few devices on the market that’d fit the bill.
gdown 11/13/2025||
Like a wii-mote kind of thing? Is there anything out that's good enough for general desktop usage? I'd be really interested if it's actually at a usable state.
cadamsdotcom 11/13/2025||
https://www.tapwithus.com/
Mashimo 11/13/2025||
> Say, in the park.

But why not use a laptop?

marknutter 11/12/2025||
So it connects to your PC via Wifi? I could use this anywhere in my house as far away from my computer as I want?
starkrights 11/12/2025||
I think it depends on whether or not you have good 6ghz connectivity. The headset comes with a 6ghz usb dongle pluggable to your rendering PC for locales without a 6ghz router or good 6ghz penetration, but due to 6ghz lack of wall-penetrating capability, that's probably going to be more/less line-of-sight. The LTT video [0] does explicitly mention the ability to use either mode of connection though- over your existing wifi network, or via their 6ghz dongle. It's somewhat unclear if the headset would function over a non 6ghz connection (regardless of quality- supposedly 2.4/5ghz VR-over-wifi is pretty rough due to channel congestion and maybe bandwidth limits)

The headset is also capable of being its own renderer, ie, it can do 'mobile' vr games (android apks like on the quest, eg). That functionality wouldn't need a connection to your PC at all.

[0]: https://youtu.be/dU3ru09HTng?t=445 - timestamped at wireless segment

Mashimo 11/13/2025||
I thought 6Ghz is not allowed world wide? For example Germany?

Are you sure it's not just wifi6?

fulafel 11/13/2025|||
Germany allowed it in 2021 or so.

The biggest variation is above 6 GHz: most of the world allows 5.9-6.4 but reserves 6.5-7 GHz for cellular or haven't decided yet if it'll be for wifi or cellular. There's a nice map on https://6ghz.info/

Mashimo 11/13/2025||
Ah, thanks for sharing.
ranger207 11/12/2025||
It's both standalone and streaming. It comes with a 6GHz Wifi dongle; 6GHz has low penetration so using it in different rooms is iffy. But if you have a good 6GHz mesh setup it might work?
0x457 11/12/2025||
> But if you have a good 6GHz mesh setup it might work?

That's my experience streaming games to steam deck. I have central 2.4/5/6Ghz AP and 6Ghz-only APs in other rooms. Any sort of wireless streaming at my place is snappy.

boriskourt 11/12/2025||
And like the Steam Deck it will never be available in my region :) So much for globalization!
isoprophlex 11/13/2025||
This will probably make me vomit as hard as any other vr headset i tried, right?
davedx 11/12/2025||
It looks stunning, great design there

There's a devkit... I'm disappointed, that's the Sony method? I actually tried to do dev for the Meta Quest 2 the other week and was disappointed there because it's my son's, and he can't sign up for a Meta dev account (age), so there's no way for me to do anything with it without factory resetting the thing. This is more disappointing though. Why can't I dev games for the consumer headset?

TGower 11/12/2025||
It sounds like the dev kit is more of a way to get devices out to devs before the full launch, I'm sure you can develop using the consumer hardware. The Adam Savage Tested video had interviews with the Valve team and it was pretty clear that "it's your computer" was a core part of the philosophy.
mmis1000 11/13/2025|||
I'm sure you can develop using the consumer hardware. I'm sure you can develop using the consumer hardware.

> It depends though. Some console's devkit have memory or vram larger than consumer device. So it will allow un-optimized dev version of the softwares to run without crash. (And allow you to check what part goes wrong later instead of immediately fix it) Although you will need to test the production build on retail device eventually, it will make development easier.

davedx 11/13/2025|||
Ah okay, a bit confusing wording there. I really think they should make that clearer...
charcircuit 11/12/2025||
Have you tried adding a second user on the headset with your own account?
davedx 11/13/2025||
Yes that was the next thing I tried, but only the device "owner" can do development on it.

The only solutions were

1) factory reset and take ownership of my son's device

2) buy another Quest

nogbit 11/14/2025||
These new steam sites are non functional in Firefox iPhone.
Apocryphon 11/12/2025||
Is this built by HTC, like the Vive is/was? Either way, RIP HTC.
fra 11/13/2025||
Extremely impressive that they were able to ship inside-out tracking, pancake lenses, and eye tracking + foveated rendering. Each of these is a serious engineering challenge. Very few organizations could pull this off.
arduinomancer 11/13/2025|
It’s not foveated rendering, it’s foveated streaming
KolibriFly 11/13/2025||
Cool to see Valve committing to the ecosystem like this
koolala 11/13/2025|
LinuxVR on this + the Steam Machine will be awesome.
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