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Posted by thewebguyd 7 hours ago

Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash(www.windowscentral.com)
93 points | 102 commentspage 2
wewewedxfgdf 7 hours ago|
Microsoft management may be succeeding with building the cloud business, but they've wrecked Windows.
pjmlp 7 hours ago|
This is one thing that I miss from Balmer days.
faidit 2 hours ago||
Strawmanning, trying to distort the narrative and gaslight us by attacking a made-up perspective instead of the real arguments/feelings of the opposition. We aren't so much unimpressed, we're wary of our MOST PRIVATE data being stolen, then sold to the highest bidder or further stolen by hackers yet again. We have a bad taste in our mouth from ONEDRIVE. BEING. LITERALLY. IMPOSSIBLE. TO. TURN. OFF. (Unless you switch to Linux which is I guess the only choice now.) And the fact that they have shown they don't care about consumer preferences and will always continue to push their juggernaut of bad decisions on us out of monopolistic hubris. I thought this guy was smart but I guess he's just another AI-assist tool.
uberman 6 hours ago||
This is Microsoft's "Do you guys not have phones?" moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjVdPtB9lU

surgical_fire 6 hours ago|
Considering Diablo Immortal generated a ton of money, I hope you are wrong.

I believe users are stupid enough to stick to Microsoft "agentic OS" anyway.

FridgeSeal 1 hour ago||
My biggest issue with “users choosing to stick with it” is the inordinate number of users in corporate environments who simply won’t be given a choice.

They’ll be given some garbage W11 laptop by IT, which will be irrevocably infested with whatever garbage MS wants, and there will be _nothing_ they can do about it. I can see it happening in real time with my partners work computer.

3eb7988a1663 1 hour ago||
Garbage software loaded on a corporate laptop is nothing new. That it comes directly from Microsoft instead of a third party security company does not meaningfully move the needle. I have long assumed that a work machine has literal keyloggers.
650 3 hours ago||
Mustafa Suleyman (Microsoft AI CEO) is a grifter. He dropped out at 19 and later ran "product" for Deepmind, riding the coattails of Demis Hassabis.

He's known for:

- bullying employees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Suleyman#cite_note-14:...

- reorgs, pointless meetings, toxic culture (example: extra office day for his org): sources who work at Microsoft

- https://x.com/pmddomingos/status/1972584701736157664

- He's a corporate climber, good at empire building, which is why Google let him go. Hires product people from his ex companies and you are left with 3 engineers and 5 product managers for a feature and don't ship anything useful.

FridgeSeal 1 hour ago|
I mean, if they want to put a grifter and a con artist in charge of their division and torpedo themselves, I say let them go for it!

Something, something, never interrupt your opponent whilst they’re making a mistake.

gwbas1c 2 hours ago||
Copilot in Visual Studio is so hit or miss that frequently it's not worth using.

Today I asked it to add a constant as an argument to every call to a specific method in a unit test. The result was pure slop: The prompts leaked out into the proposed diff, and there was just a list of every method call, not placed where the method calls were in the unit test.

Just get the darn stuff to work before you shove it into every corner of my life.

dev1ycan 1 hour ago||
The ONLY thing keeping people in WIndows anymore, is propietary software, that is how TERRIBLE Microsoft has become.
cadamsdotcom 7 hours ago||
> it's hard to believe we're going to see a version of Windows that isn't bloated with AI functionality most people didn't ask for.

All the leadership need to do is read these types of articles and they’ll see what’s going on outside the walls. One wonders how the internal incentives can be so wrong.

Narishma 2 hours ago||
Reminds me of the Xbox One reveal disaster.
pessimizer 5 hours ago||
Because they're right. They'll all collude to make sure that you can't install a non-"smart" OS, just like you can't buy an non-"smart" tv, and the public will be well-trained to mumble something about the "market" and call you names ("luddite," "techie," "boomer," whatever...) when you complain about it.

Once a generation has been raised who never saw a computer that couldn't refuse to let you type what you wanted into it, young people will stop believing that you could ever type what you wanted. Old people will forget that you could ever type what you wanted. It worked with literally everything else.

themafia 7 hours ago||
> Jeez there so many cynics!

Jeez there are so many clueless CEOs!

> It cracks me up when I hear people call AI underwhelming.

This is your business. It should "make you curious." Saying it "cracks you up" is ridiculous behavior from someone in your position. I will never do business with someone like this.

> I grew up playing Snake on a Nokia phone!

Because you were bored? Or because you literally set time aside every day to play it because it was just that good? What is this nonsense?

> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation

I have "fluent conversations" already. With people. About recent and relevant things. The fact that a computer can pretend to do this is not impressive. Press on it hard enough and you'll immediately see the cracks. We've had weak chat bots since forever.

> with a super smart AI

That's trained on existing data. It cannot synthesize new perspectives or prerogatives. It often fails to know anything that recently occurred. It often presents data as if it is absolutely true and that it could not possibly be wrong. It's the opposite of smart in every way.

> that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me.

It can make copies. It cannot generate anything novel. There was no part of my life that was hampered by the fact I couldn't generate images or videos. This is an amusement, not anything that adds to my bottom line.

FridgeSeal 1 hour ago|
If it weren’t so tiring having to wade through all the ai slop they add to products I’m forced to use, the fact that leadership in the field are getting petty and childish about how not everyone thinks their toy is shiny is a real “telling on themselves” moment.

If it actually, truly, world-changingly good as they are _begging us_ to believe they are, they wouldn’t need to care that people disliked it or chose not to use it.

But because they’re practically going red in the face screeching about it, it really comes off as “cope”, to use the hip new word.

djent 7 hours ago||
People think Windows sucks. People think AI sucks. Combine the two, ??? Still sucks
zb3 2 hours ago|
With this attitude I'm worried about GitHub and VSCode..
kayart_dev 2 hours ago|
Microsoft has been pushing AI features into both VS Code and GitHub for quite some time
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