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Posted by mips_avatar 12/3/2025

Everyone in Seattle hates AI(jonready.com)
967 points | 1065 commentspage 5
decimalenough 12/3/2025|
The name "Wanderfugl" is wanderfully fugly.

Oddly, the screenshots in the article show the name as "Wanderfull".

LogicFailsMe 12/3/2025||
The thing about dismissing AI in 2025 is that it's on par with dismissing the wearable computing group at MIT in the 1980s.

But admittedly, if one had tried to productize their stuff in the 1980s it would have been hilarious. So the rewards here are going to go to the people who read the right tea leaves and follow the right path to what's inevitable.

In the short term, a lot of not so smart, people are going to lose a lot of money believing some of the ludicrous short-term claims. But when has that not been the case?

This is not the right time of year to pitch in Seattle. The days are short and the people are cranky. But if they want to keep hating on AI as a technology because of Microsoft and Amazon, let them, and build your AI technology somewhere else. San Francisco thinks the AGI is coming any day now so it all balances out, no?

mips_avatar 12/4/2025|
I might have written in broad strokes but I was really annoyed. Like I want to get out of the Amazon/Microsoft bubble. And yeah everyone is cranky rn
LogicFailsMe 12/4/2025||
Microsoft and Amazon people in Seattle are as annoying as Hollywood people in LA. I feel your disenchantment with the monoculture.
wavemode 12/3/2025||
My previous software job was for a Seattle-based team within Amazon's customer support org.

I consider it divine intervention that I departed shortly before LLMs got big. I can't imagine the unholy machinations my former team has been tasked with working on since I left.

kizer 12/3/2025||
In my opinion, the issue in AI is similar to the issue in self driving cars. I think the last “five percent” of functionality for agents etc. will be much, much more difficult to nail down for production use, just like snow weather and strange roads proved to be much more difficult for self-driving car technology rollout. They got to 95% and assumed they were nearing completion but it turned out there was even more work to be done to get to 100%. That’s kind of my take on all the AI hype. It’s going to take a lot more work to get the final five percent done.
itg 12/3/2025||
Was this written by AI? It sounds like the writing style of an elementary school student. Almost entirely made of really simple sentence structures, and for whatever reason I find it really annoying to read.
atarian 12/3/2025|
It has all the signs. Em-dashes. That distinct way of using short sentences to drive a point. Like this.
redwood 12/3/2025||
He describes his startup as an ai-oriented map... to me that sounds amazing and totally at my alley. But then it's actually about trip planning... to me is too constrained and specific. What I would love is a map type experience that gives me an AI type interface for interesting things in any given area that might be near me and worth checking out.

And not just for travel by the way... I love just exploring maps and seeing a place.. I'd love to learn more about a place kind of like a mesh between Wikipedia and a map and AI could help

mips_avatar 12/4/2025|
So actually that’s what I’ve been working on. It’s been taking so long because I’ve been building my own ai focused geocoder to do just that
redwood 12/4/2025||
Look forward to trying it!
MaintenanceMode 12/3/2025||
Whenever I see "everyone", and broad statements that try to paint an entire geography based on one company "Microsoft" I'm suspect of the motives of the author at worst, or just dismissive of the premise at best.

I see what the author is saying here, but they're painting with an overly broad brush. The whole "San Francisco still thinks it can change the world" also is annoying.

I am from the Seattle area, so I do take it a bit personally, but this isn't exactly my experience here.

skx001 12/4/2025||
The industry will truly only find out how well AI adoption is going if it allows users both internal (employees, tech workers) and external (general users/consumers) to fully opt-out.

AI is being forced down peoples' throat. Millions want to but cannot disable Gemini from Gmail. Many SWEs don't want to use AI tools but managers are forcing them to do so.

How do you know if something is really liked/needed/wanted when there is no opt-out?

raincole 12/3/2025|
> Instead, she reacted to it with a level of negativity I'd never seen her direct at me before.

A few months ago, a friend of mine showed a poem she wrote for her newborn. Or more specifically, she asked ChatGPT to write for her newborn.

I almost acted like this ex-Microsoft senior. Tbh if I didn't know it was for her own child, I would have acted this way.

I (thought that I) managed ignoring my opinions about whether writing poems is a good use of AI and steering the topic to baby formula milk instead.

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