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Posted by saigrandhi 1 day ago

Is it a bubble?(www.oaktreecapital.com)
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cal_dent 1 day ago|
I think this gives an excellent framework for how to think of this. Is it a bubble? Who knows is a perfectly valid answer.

I do think there’s something quite ironic that one of the frequent criticisms of LLMs are that they can’t really say “I don’t know”. Yet if someone says that they get criticised. No surprises that our tools are the same.

jesuslop 1 day ago|
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MeteorMarc 1 day ago||
Look for the quote "coding is at a world class level"...
qubex 18 hours ago||
“Remember the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”
dismalaf 1 day ago||
Of course it's a bubble. Valuations are propped up by speculative spending and AI seems unable to make enough profit to make back the continued spending.

Now, that's not to say AI isn't useful and we won't have AGI in the future. But this feels alot like the AI winter. Valuations will crash, a bunch of players will disappear, but we'll keep using the tech for boring things and eventually we'll have another breakthrough.

lowbloodsugar 1 day ago||
This thread is just full of people discussing why industrial looms are bad. The factory owners don’t think looms are bad. You can either learn how to be useful in the new factory or you can start throwing shoes.
wfurney 1 day ago||
It sounds like Sam Altman is saying the bubble popping is AI's "big bang".
catigula 1 day ago||
>I find the resulting outlook for employment terrifying. I am enormously concerned about what will happen to the people whose jobs AI renders unnecessary, or who can’t find jobs because of it. The optimists argue that “new jobs have always materialized after past technological advances.” I hope that’ll hold true in the case of AI, but hope isn’t much to hang one’s hat on, and I have trouble figuring out where those jobs will come from. Of course, I’m not much of a futurist or a financial optimist, and that’s why it’s a good thing I shifted from equities to bonds in 1978.

It's no wonder that the "AI optimists", unless very tendentious, try to focus more on "not needing to work because you'll get free stuff" rather than "you'll be able to exchange your labor for goods".

asdff 1 day ago||
New jobs might materialize but who knows if they will be good jobs. Think of all the towns around the US set up around resource extraction or manufacturing that went away, and in its wake you have jobs like selling geekbars in the 7/11 to the other minimum wage workers and people scrapping along on the dole in the area. People living on the poverty line today while their parents bought a home and two cars on a single income from the steel mill a generation or two previous. Most of the population up and left.

How about when offices went digital? All the file runners, calculators, switchboard operators, secretaries, transcribers, etc. Where are they now? Probably not working good jobs in IT. Maybe you will find them bagging groceries past retirement age today.

puchatek 1 day ago||
And i am so buying the vision of Elon using AI to give me free stuff. He just gives off this enormous altruistic energy.
reallyaaryan 1 day ago||
it always was
warrenmiller 1 day ago||
I think Betteridge's Law of Headlines applies here
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