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Posted by throwaway019254 7 days ago

Coursera to combine with Udemy(investor.coursera.com)
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andrewrn 6 days ago|
As a counterpoint to the negativity in here. I purchased one of Angela Yu's basic webdev courses a couple years back and it springboarded my coding ability. I left it rather quickly to just build random stuff I wanted, but still, it was the spark.
SamDc73 6 days ago||
Angela Yu course is good, told my brother about it and he had hard time figuring some stuff out cause some pieces were outdated (he has zero experience)
michaelcampbell 6 days ago||
Same here; I've gotten a lot of utility from Udemy. Actually kind of got me a job (tbf, the manager I'd known for years and he'd've hired me regardless, but I was able to actually DO the job he wanted me to do basically day 0, even when he was willing to hire me and let me learn as I went).

There's some crap there; I've returned a couple courses not to my liking, but by and large I've been happy with them.

seattle_spring 6 days ago||
I interviewed for an eng role at Coursera back in 2012, not too long after they were founded. Their claimed goal at the time was a re-imagining of education, insisting that current educational institutions were stuck in the past.

Despite that, a large portion of the interview focused on my grades from my time at University, and the specific course-work I had taken. Note that this was for application engineering, and it wasn't my first job out of school. About half of my frontend engineering session was the interviewer focusing on my single sub-B grade (got a C+ in Operating Systems). Mind you, my overall CS BS GPA was a 3.5 from a top-10 engineering school, with a 3.6 in major-specific courses. It seemed like the team was largely Stanford grads, and they really, really, really cared about GPA and school-- basically playing right into the legacy education system.

I knew at that point that there was no way the company was going to "disrupt" anything with regard to education.

synergy20 7 days ago||
I bought quite a few courses at udemy, none at coursera though, but I ended up not taking them, instead I used youtube to get some video, and LLM to get the text context these days. Youtube is the true gem, if it spins out of google it could take on netflix at least. In short, google might be undervalued a lot just because of youtube, for entertainment and education purposes.
tompark 6 days ago||
After Coursera/Udacity/EdX discontinued courses that I wanted to take, or removed access to ones I only partially completed, I switched to buying classes on Udemy. I completed only a handful of many purchases, and the quality level was okay-to-mediocre but better than nothing, so I got more value out of Udemy than Coursera.

I also found that Youtube videos are just as informative as Udemy classes, but they're not always as well structured.

The MOOCs had some pretty cool/interesting university classes that don't exist anywhere else. It's a shame those videos weren't preserved where we can access/purchase them without attending the college.

stef25 7 days ago|||
For a basic crash course in Python, is there anything better than the top rated Udemy course, can YT offer something better ? I really don't mind paying the 12$ it costs on Udemy.
albert_e 6 days ago|||
Corey Schafer on YouTube should be in your bookmarks --

Playlists ...

Python Programming Beginner Tutorials https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-osiE80TeTskrapNbzXh...

Python OOP Tutorials - Working with Classes https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-osiE80TeTsqhIuOqKhw...

Python Tutorials https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-osiE80TeTt2d9bfVyTi...

ghshephard 6 days ago|||
You will never do better than https://www.pythonmorsels.com/

This is what you get when you have an educator completely dedicated to a single topic and surpasses all expectations of education.

belter 6 days ago||
Terrible audio quality...
joshdavham 6 days ago||
I get so much decision fatigue when choosing a course series on YouTube. On every technical topic, there are like 15 people making courses anywhere from 10 minutes to 10 hours.
coffeecoders 6 days ago||
I've realized over time that I personally cannot learn from video at all. Even "great" lectures don't stick. Text does!

Being able to skim, jump around, re-read a paragraph or pause on a single sentence is how understanding actually forms for me.

What’s interesting is that LLMs lean hard into this strength of text, they make it interactive, searchable, and contextual.

To me, most of these platforms have optimized video for engagement. Its essentially "press play and hope it sticks".

MarkLowenstein 6 days ago|
The dream never dies, possibly because people remember when class time was supplanted by a movie. Anyone remember "I Am Joe's Heart"? Those movies showed that you could just sit and watch passively like TV, and you'd learn quite a bit, with professional diagrams and animations to help.

Yet your comment is true. Perhaps the difference is that science is inherently interesting because nature is confined to things that are consistent and make sense, while the latest security model for version 3.0 of this-or-that web service protocol, vs. version 2.0, is basically arbitrary and resists effective visual diagramming. Learning software (not computer science) is an exercise in memorizing things that aren't inherently interesting.

languagehacker 6 days ago||
Interesting development. I had assumed a private equity company was behind this, but it seems like a deal brokered between two public companies, maybe struggling to show growth.

Something tells me the outcome will likely be the same -- years of trying to get competing systems to get aligned or absorbed, attrition of all the most important people who are ready to move on and do more interesting work, and ultimately a poorer experience for the customer.

But what do I know.

ee64a4a 6 days ago||
Excellent, another sector tending towards monopoly. As we all know, markets work best when everyone is allowed to merge with/buy out one another!
crimsoneer 6 days ago||
This feels like another nail in the coffin of the open, optimistic internet we all dreamed of in 2012, and it makes me sad.
random9749832 6 days ago||
The reality is that most of these courses exist for the certificate not the course material. People still job hunting for entry level roles just want to pad out their LinkedIn.
ghaff 6 days ago|
You and I may not like it, but the reality is that so much of "education" is about certifications. And MOOC certifications were never worth much. I have taken unrequired training courses over the years and did other self-guided training, but a LOT of online training was never worth much as a formal certification thing and that's where a lot of the money goes. (Look at executive MBA programs vs. online courses.)
zigman1 7 days ago||
Interesting, can this be an expected outcome of AI adoption? Mergers of big competitors?
oersted 7 days ago||
Remember Conglomerates? It just keeps changing name.

Free competitive markets are not an emergent natural phenomenon, they are a technology of civilised societies, and without governments constantly keeping markets free, we keep reverting back to to robber barons and eventually petty warlord kings, that's the natural low-energy state of humans if you let it go unchecked.

p-e-w 7 days ago|||
Seems to be the expected outcome of everything, in every industry, for the past 10 years or so.
christophilus 7 days ago|||
> 10 years or so

Centuries, really, with only periodic exceptions.

bossyTeacher 6 days ago|||
Makes you wonder what happens when all that is left is a single national company and a couple of ever struggling businesses
layer8 6 days ago|||
It’s the expected outcome of capitalism in the absence of effective market regulation.
master-lincoln 7 days ago||
just capitalism in the final stage
Libidinalecon 6 days ago||
Yes, "Late Stage Capitalism" the idea from the text written in 1902 by Werner Sombart.

The real comical part is we have almost been in the "late stage" as long as the time between Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations and the generation of this stupid idea.

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