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Posted by rwoll 12/21/2025

Waymo halts service during S.F. blackout after causing traffic jams(missionlocal.org)
319 points | 456 commentspage 4
joshka 12/21/2025|
I for one welcome our robot slow-verlords.
ursAxZA 12/22/2025||
Honestly, I’m just glad this stopped before a major accident happened.
bink 12/21/2025||
It was predicted by many, including me. It'll be a lot worse in an earthquake where power and cell service are out and there's debris and road damage. Good luck to our first responders.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41688847

dzhiurgis 12/21/2025||
I thought LIDAR solves for this lol
pif 12/21/2025||
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elzbardico 12/21/2025||
As a society, as a whole society, opposed to our narrow interests and point of views as typical affluent HN dwellers, do we really NEED this kind of shit?
StanislavPetrov 12/21/2025||
If you think this is swell, just wait until they move us to 100% digital currency!
cess11 12/21/2025||
I think I prefer trains and buses.
chroma 12/21/2025|
SF Muni & BART both stopped service in many areas. Though most of the trains still had electricity, many sensors and control systems were inoperable. Also underground stations had no lighting, so it would be hazardous to allow people to board or exit there.

Waymo's problem is obvious in hindsight, and quite embarrassing for them, but it can be solved with software improvements. Tesla's FSD already treats dark traffic lights as stop signs, so I would bet on Waymo fixing this as soon as they can.

But transportation that depends on infrastructure along the whole route (such as trains and busses powered by overhead lines) are always going to fail in these situations. I think that's acceptable considering how rare these events are.

cess11 12/21/2025||
Living in social rot and keeping unmanned little autos for those that can afford it seems even more nasty than what I initially had in mind.
mlpro 12/21/2025||
Waymo should do a bit more research in reliability and explainability of their AI models.
laweijfmvo 12/21/2025|
So basically no answer from Waymo other than to boast about their numbers? Why not just be transparent?
jerlam 12/21/2025||
The "boast about numbers" wasn't from Waymo, it was from their investors, and it was earlier this month and not during the service suspension.
krisoft 12/21/2025|||
What do you mean no answer? They are suspending their operations. That is their answer.
NetMageSCW 12/21/2025|||
Read more carefully, Waymo didn’t boast about their numbers and that part of the story was unrelated to the issue except as a measure of impact their shutdown could have.
nextworddev 12/21/2025||
Because they are currently trying to raise money at 100bn valuation
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