Posted by rbanffy 2 days ago
Still, if we ever end up with rows of these giant “balloons,” the landscape might look unexpectedly futuristic.
It makes more sense to use water + a dam, but then again, we like to use water for things besides energy storage, and we're talking about a _lot_ of water.
This gas bag is effectively the same as water+dam, except the pressure is from the tanks and the compressor creates it, vs pumping uphill to create pressure.
Compare the thermal efficiency of marine diesel engines to their automotive equivalents, for instance.
Can see how this could scale up for longer storage fairly cheaply but on current trends batteries will have caught up in cost in 2-3 years.
Not a carbon sequestration thing, but will likely fool some people into thinking it is.
So the question is, how much does it cost? The article is completely silent on this, as expected.
Honestly considering the design overall, I feel like one could make a single use science project version of this on a desk (i.e. aside from the CO2 recharging part) for under 200 bucks. 12oz CO2 tank, some sort of generator and whatever you need to spin it that is sealed, tubing, and a reclamation bag for the used CO2.
And IMO using CO2 makes the rest of the design cheaper; Blow off valves are relatively cheap for this scenario, especially because CO2 gas system pressures are fairly low, and there's plenty of existing infrastructure around the safety margin. And I think even with blow off valves this could be a 'closed' system with minimal losses (although that would admittedly add to the cost...)
I guess I'm saying is the main unknown is how expensive this regeneration system is for the quoted efficiency gains.
> Energy Dome expects its LDES solution to be 30 percent cheaper than lithium-ion.
30% cheaper than batteries from when? today? two years ago?
huge difference, 30% cheaper than lithium batteries feels like a pitch deck number from years ago to me