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Posted by thanedar 12/21/2025

You’re not burnt out, you’re existentially starving(neilthanedar.com)
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AndrewKemendo 12/21/2025|
I built a measurement framework for this called a cohesion matrix. You can rate your integration/coherence/cohesion based on this rubric:

https://kemendo.com/CohesionMatrix.html

amelius 12/21/2025|
Looks more like a vector than a matrix to me.
AndrewKemendo 12/21/2025||
It computes a vector from two matricies so you’re definitely right!
thr0waway001 12/21/2025||
I gotta say even though not having kids seems like the most economically sane thing to me, it often makes me wonder, what will be the point of life after retirement. I have no wife, g/f or kids. Right now my only 'why' is to not disappoint my family and cause a couple of them could use my help financially. Other than that, I don't see a long term 'why'. My only compelling short term 'why' is that I don't want to be homeless. But that's pretty much a working to live and living to work type of reason to exist.

Oh that and that the dog will miss me. But as we all know they don't live for long.

stouset 12/21/2025|
If you don’t have hobbies you pour your free time into, you are robbing yourself.

The purpose of work (for most people), once you’re past comfortable survival, should be to buy time for you to spend living your life in ways you enjoy and that gives you meaning. If you don’t have something that gives you that feeling, find it!

jcims 12/21/2025||
I've been in an engineering manager role on and off for the past 7 years at two different companies. Both of which are highly regulated and incur a ton of audits, attestations and this impenetrable knot of distributed dependencies for segregation of duty and other 'stuff'. As a result I'm in meetings 75% of my working hours and rarely get involved with anything close to the actual technology my team delivers.

In the past two months I've been on two 4-6 hour incident management calls due to failures in our service providers and it's been quite some time since I felt that good about a day's work. No meetings, no planning, no bullshit...just raw collaboration and tactical problem solving. Even got to flex some of the skills that have been dormant for far too long.

Feelsgoodman.

markus_zhang 12/21/2025||
Damn true. I figured it out by myself a while ago, when I was in the middle of a crisis after my son was born. TBF I’m still in the crisis on and off, but now I feel better.

What worked is:

- Realize that not loving my work is fine, as long as I have something else that I love and want to do.

- YouTube channel “Napoleon Hill Notes”. Yeah, it is AI voiced and I have no idea whether what it says makes sense or not. But it works for me, tremendously. Whenever I fell into a low mood, I boot up a session and I felt better afterwards. Now I use it to brainwash myself into a better version.

hackboyfly 12/22/2025||
I like the overall message of this since I can deeply relate.

I have been looking for meaningful work since I was 18, started in sales went on to marketing and ended up in engineering as a data scientist.

Even though I feel closer than ever I still feel that I am not where I am suppose to be. One of my biggest problem is having to many options, to many callings. And they constantly keep changing, and perhaps that’s normal.

It’s easy and dangerous to get stuck in the idea or quest of finding the ultimate purpose and try to translate that into actual work.

seph-reed 12/22/2025||
Stepping on my soapbox: Treat your mind, body, and present moment as if they're sacred. As if you could live a thousand lives and they would be sacred every time. All the other stuff, it's just this once.

Cleaning a mind of random grievances and addictions is good. Letting a body be weird, dance wrong, move in funny ways, sing poorly: this is good too.

The whole "purpose" thing is a side-effect. It can't be sought directly, I think.

highfrequency 12/21/2025||
Overcomplicated take. Burn out comes from lacking a feeling of forward progress and tractability to your problems, regardless of current objective state.
asdff 12/21/2025|
That is part of it but there is also something to be said about what is going on biochemically IMO. Even if you are feeling forward progress and comfortable about the scope of your problems, if you give yourself no time to rest and get out of a subconciously anxious state, that isn't very good.

Anxiety is meant to have your senses heightened to perhaps hear the tiger stalking you and encourage you to seek out a safer environment where you can comfortably rest. You aren't built to be in an anxious state for such extended periods of time. The tiger would have gotten you by then, with the way this system was designed. You aren't built to constantly run from the tiger.

icedrift 12/21/2025||
If you come from immense privilege (growing up in an 8 figure household), have good health, and rich relationships and that isn't enough to curb your existentialism that's ok, but I find it hard to take this piece seriously as this is written like it's targeting the average financially stable worker. It strikes me as out of touch at best.
johnnyanmac 12/22/2025||
I don't know if this article is for me:

>You got the great job. You built the startup. You took the vacations. But that’s not what you really needed.

I had none of these. I strive for them, but right now the market is rough and I have no time to rest. I think a lot of us are genuinely burnt out from losing the essentials these past few years.

mkoubaa 12/21/2025|
The purpose of life is not only to be happy. It's not a useless metric but don't over-index on it
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