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Posted by kevlened 5 days ago

Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team(github.com)
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xorgun 4 days ago|
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bschmidt240 3 days ago||
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andrewmcwatters 4 days ago||
That sucks. I’m not a big fan of Tailwind, but at least it helps non-designers make somewhat decent user-interfaces.

It’s hard to run a software business.

wetpaws 4 days ago||
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sieabahlpark 5 days ago||
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moralestapia 4 days ago||
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nemomarx 4 days ago||
What was the monetization opportunity exactly? Pay for updated versions of the tailwind classes or something?

The core product was basically a library and those seem pretty hard to sell in any language, right?

richwater 4 days ago||
I logged in just to tell you you're being a non-empathic ass.

What have _you_ created that makes money sustainably? What challenges have _you_ navigated around AI driving traffic to your docs down by 80%?

Some people...

moralestapia 4 days ago||
Personal attacks are against the rules here.
berbec 4 days ago||
and you don't think adamwathan deserves the same respect?
moralestapia 4 days ago||
That's not what the rule is about.

Give it some thought, if it were like that half of this site wouldn't be allowed to speak about Trump et. al. the way they do.

This is the guy you're carrying water for, btw: https://x.com/adamwathan/status/2008646797619864060

I'll stop the conversation here as it is off-topic from the thread.

usernamed7 5 days ago||
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tomhow 4 days ago||
> This is incredibly dumb and greedy on so many fronts.

Please don't fulminate on HN. Thoughtful critique is fine, rage is not. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

beart 5 days ago|||
Greed implies excessive accumulation of wealth. Based on the public statements, they are laying people off because they cannot afford to keep paying them while keeping the project afloat. It doesn't seem like greed is a factor here.

AI putting people out of work is a very real issue, and it is discussed on HN quite often. Here we have a very real example of it (apparently) and the reaction is vitriolic, but not against the AI processes, but the creators who are losing their work.

ares623 4 days ago||
There definitely is greed involved. But the other way around
freedomben 5 days ago|||
He's still trying to figure it out. I've been a customer for years now and I've rarely ever bought a product that is an user-friendly and user-respecting as Tailwind UI (Tailwind Plus). If you've never had to lay people off before, it is an absolutely gut wrenching experience, surely moreso when you have to be the one to make the call. Let the man be a human and experience some emotions. I have a lot of faith that he'll make the right call.
femiagbabiaka 5 days ago|||
Greedy? He said revenue was down 80%.
OGEnthusiast 5 days ago||
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wesselbindt 5 days ago||
Here's some more context, which you seem to need: the reason they've laid off 75% of their devs is because their revenue is down 80%, despite tailwind being more popular than ever. This seems to be caused by a drop in visits to their documentation, which is really the only way people find out about their commercial offerings. This drop in visits to the docs is, in turn, most likely caused by the increased use of LLMs.
usernamed7 5 days ago||
using tailwind docs is awful. I'd MUCH rather use an LLM than try to grok their documentation. That it was their only way to promote commercial offerings is not my problem, there are many other ways to approach this than encouraging a worse experience for devs.
hebrides 4 days ago|||
What about the docs do you find awful? I’ve always found them great: a short explanation and a minimal working example.
FromTheFirstIn 5 days ago|||
What other ways can you approach it?
tschellenbach 5 days ago|||
Why hate on someone doing their best and building.
pavel_lishin 5 days ago|||
Why?
guywithahat 5 days ago||
I don't think that's what they're saying. They're saying people don't need to pay for their services because AI can do it and has "taken their jobs". Not that their CEO replaced employees with AI
runjake 4 days ago||
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mjr00 4 days ago||
> At around 1 PM Pacific yesterday, Adam called someone who had just been laid off from Laracasts an idiot. The person was lamenting about being replaced by AI.

This is totally untrue. The person who got laid off from Laracasts is @simonswiss, the person Adam is calling an idiot is @benjamincrozat.

jeremy_k 4 days ago|||
You might want to clarify that Adam responded to someone commenting about another individual being laid off from Laracasts; he did not call the individual who was laid off an idiot
runjake 4 days ago|||
Thanks for correcting me. I re-read his reply a few times and came to my same conclusion.

Funny story, it turns out the "Control Panel for Twitter" browser extension I use breaks rendering on the current version of X and gave me the impression that Adam was replying directly.

Sorry, Adam.

renewiltord 4 days ago|||
Common problem with HI (Human Intelligence). We call it “hallucinations” or “confabulations”.
winterbloom 4 days ago||
he wasn't, he was calling the person who responded to the individual who got laid off
cynicalsecurity 4 days ago|
Pretending like this is some Google-level apocalypse when it's a garage band downsizing? Spare me.
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