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Posted by reconnecting 18 hours ago

iCloud Photos Downloader(github.com)
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gerdemb 14 hours ago|
HN disclosure: I’m the author of Photos Backup Anywhere, but this thread mirrors the exact issues that pushed me to write it.

One thing that surprised me when digging into Apple Photos is how much state isn’t represented by just files-on-disk. Albums, Live Photos (paired assets), bursts, slo-mo, edits, and even “simple” things like adjusted capture dates are all tracked separately, and most export/backup tools end up flattening or partially reconstructing that on restore.

The approach I took was to treat Photos as the source of truth and verify restored items against it, rather than assuming filesystem metadata is enough. As far as I know, this is the only tool that restores albums and correctly round-trips all Photos item types while preserving location data, creation dates, and modification dates when restoring back into Photos.

Project page is here if it’s useful: https://photosbackup.app/

Happy to explain details if anyone’s curious — there are a lot of sharp edges in Photos once you go beyond “export originals”.

open_ 13 hours ago||
My current process for offloading photos off the iPhone is to copy them in subsequent batches of '0-9999' from the 'Image Capture' app.

This is because I usually have far more than 10K photos and apple starts renaming the files after 9999 as 00001(1) for the rest. This is pretty undesirable.

Is there a way for me to export unmodified raw/jpeg/live/videos off the iphone to an external drive without a macbook with a large enough ssd, and wanting to use icloud as an intermediate bottleneck?

m463 10 hours ago|||
I use libimobiledevice on linux

plug iphone into usb. lsusb should show it.

I backup my photos with:

  sudo ifuse -o allow_other /mnt
  rsync -a /mnt/DCIM <photos-dir>
  sudo umount /mnt
Actually, I backup all of /mnt not just DCIM, but that answer is for you. I also backup the entire phone with:

  sudo idevicebackup2 backup <backup-dir>
but in this form it either does the photos as data files, or doesn't back them up. I think it is a complete backup.
yardstick 7 hours ago||
Do you take into account the iPhone not holding the original images of every photo? It will offload originals and just keep thumbnails if the library is too large.

Mine is approaching 1.5TB, I’ve got no hope of keeping that all on an iPhone, and also no guarantee that any given photo is fully available locally.

thw_9a83c 2 hours ago|||
> Do you take into account the iPhone not holding the original images of every photo?

If you have enough storage space on your iPhone, you can select "Download and Keep Originals" in the photo app settings.

cyberpunk 7 hours ago|||
Aren't there hooks on the filesystem layer that downloads them when you access them? E.g I can browse via terminal to my iCloud Drive somehow and cat etc works on files which aren't local (after locking to download them first).
thw_9a83c 4 hours ago||||
> My current process for offloading photos off the iPhone

I'm not sure about Linux, but my workflow on Windows and MacOS is to frequently back up my iPhone locally (which you should do anyway because few incorrect PINs can security lock your phone [1]) and use utility like backup extractor (e.g. [2] but there are many others) to extract all photos from the backup. This effectively removes the need to use iCloud.

[1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/105090?device-type=iphone

[2]: https://github.com/joz-k/ios_backup_extractor

zerkten 12 hours ago||||
Does the PhotoSync app permit that? I use it to copy files to my NAS but it has some USB-related options I never explored. I used to use Image Capture but heard of PhotoSync and have never looked back.
open_ 10 hours ago|||
That looks like it might do the trick. I feel like this should be something possible only using first party apps but I'll take it! Thanks.
kccqzy 7 minutes ago||
I use and like PhotoSync but I thought it doesn’t export unmodified originals but your edited versions. Personally I like this behavior better but that might not be what you want?

I’m not sure Apple allows any third party app to access the unmodified originals. Imagine you crop a photo to remove some embarrassing part. A third-party app can just recover that? What a privacy risk.

Of course this won’t matter if you don’t do any photo editing on iOS.

giancarlostoro 13 hours ago|||
I did it on Linux once I extracted them all as-is in the strange storage way that iOS stores them but I dont recall steps to make it mount the drive.
open_ 10 hours ago||
That would be perfect, I might chase down this path again. It's been a while since I've tried to directly mount the iphone as a drive on linux.
torarnv 2 hours ago|||
Awesome! Thanks for posting, I've been looking for exactly this kind of project that takes end to end pristine restoration seriously.

The FAQ states you back up the originals as plain images files in YYYY/MM/DD format, which is great for integration with other tools. What about metadata? Is it in a format that lends to integration with other tools, say if you stop developing/supporting your app for some reason?

gerdemb 2 hours ago||
Metadata is stored in an SQLite database alongside the backed up files. The format is not documented, but should be self explanatory if you examine the schema.
wappieslurkz 3 hours ago|||
Thanks for creating this amazing tool. A requirement for it to work is disabling "Advanced Data Protection". What are the implications of doing this?
gerdemb 1 hour ago||
That’s a good question. To be completely honest, I don’t know much about Advanced Data Protection myself, and I didn’t do anything specific in the app to detect or interact with it.

I’m actually curious: how did you discover that it doesn’t work when Advanced Data Protection is enabled? Was it through an error message, incomplete backups, or something else you noticed?

giancarlostoro 13 hours ago|||
I have taken time to slowly extract photos from old androids and its such a nightmare, and if you cant get a meaningful interface to load you have to resort to tooling that scrapes the whole drive and hope it grabs everything.
s4mbh4 7 hours ago||
My current workflow for this is to install the 'simpleSSHD' app on the android phone and rsync the files off at full network speed.

The sshd running on the phone also supports key based auth , so it's pretty simple to automate.

giancarlostoro 2 hours ago||
Yeah but for some phones the storage is full ;) I had to figure out how to remove just enough to root it and then just adb in for one phone then I learned that if I extract too quickly it gives up the ghost so I have to add a delay
supermatt 4 hours ago|||
Is the app bound to the purchasers iCloud, or can I also use it to download my partners images?
toomuchtodo 13 hours ago|||
Thanks for commenting, do you support S3 compatible targets? Backblaze B2, for example.
gerdemb 13 hours ago||
Not directly, no. If you can mount the S3 target as a drive, it can be used as a backup destination.
snorlax100 12 hours ago|||
Love this app! Kudos
SSLy 13 hours ago||
have you looked at parachute backup? they also boast ability to backup the more mercurial types of iPhotos data.
gerdemb 13 hours ago||
Backing up “mercurial” Photos data is only half the problem. The tricky part is restoring it in a way Photos actually recognizes as equivalent to the original library state. Photos Backup Anywhere restore works by re-importing items while explicitly reapplying Photos-level attributes: paired assets for Live Photos, burst membership and picks, slo-mo metadata, edits, locations, adjusted capture dates, and then reconstructing albums after the items exist again in the library.

In other words, the filesystem copy isn’t treated as the source of truth. The restore verifies items against what was backed up and only then rebuilds higher-level structure like albums. That’s the piece I didn’t see addressed elsewhere, and what originally motivated me to build it.

nathan_f77 4 hours ago||
Nice to see my project on Hacker News! I started this almost 10 years ago and haven't been involved with maintenance for a long time, but I'm glad that people are still finding it useful.
reconnecting 18 hours ago||
Surprisingly, there is no official way to download all (400 Gb) photos from iCloud. Here is an open-source command-line tool to download all your iCloud photos.
kccqzy 18 hours ago||
That’s not true. On any Mac or iPhone you can choose the iCloud Photo Library storage option to download all instead of letting the system optimize the storage. And if you turn off iCloud Photo Library, it will also try to download it all. I know this because I stopped using iCloud Photo Library and that was how I got all my photos downloaded.
possiblerobot 17 hours ago|||
+1 to this method. After optimise storage is disabled on the Mac, wait for all photos to download. Then, open the photos library bundle and you'll see every photo there, full res. Copy them wherever you like.

Also, if you leave optimise storage disabled and continue to use Photos, every photo will be cloned in any local or cloud backups of your machine. This strategy creates additional photo redundancy separate from iCloud while still benefiting from library syncing.

mbirth 17 hours ago|||
Or use the great osxphotos tool that works with Apple Photo’s SQLite database to let you manage all the photos in your library.

https://github.com/RhetTbull/osxphotos

Barbing 16 hours ago||
Demo .gif sold me

(Been meaning to make a software demo gif gallery, best way to understand many categories of apps)

nottorp 46 minutes ago||||
I once exported my photos out of the iwhatever library. They weren't in the cloud, Apple hadn't managed to trick me into turning that on.

What I remember is that I opened the library in finder and in mc, got scared by the readable-only-by-machine directory structure and used a 3rd party tool to export them to date labeled directories.

lostlogin 17 hours ago||||
This was my strategy too, but with a disgusting script which quit photos.app, rsync the photo library to a network share, then reopened photos.app so that it kept downloading from iCloud.

Not sure if the open/close is required, but I didn’t want to find out.

lencastre 17 hours ago||
I don’t fully trust iCloud Drive / Photos therefore I use FSViewer to download all photos from my iOS device du jour (making sure to keep the HEIF formats), this way I get the Edited (slo-mo, live, portrait, usw) and pristine versions as Jobs intended. All kidding aside, after the gray area gate of 2017-2021 I had to find a more reliable backup workflow. As of today I only use iCloud Drive / Photos to extract some RAW photos that for some reason some picky apps don’t save to the photo album (looking at you ProCam 8.0). I made several tests including hash comparisons and imagemagick diffs and I am quite pleased.
reconnecting 17 hours ago|||
Someone gave me a new iPhone (120GB) and a new MacBook Pro and asked me to download all their photos from iCloud. Long story short, after 120GB of photos were synchronised to the iPhone, the MacBook Pro refused to copy them, and now there's no storage left on the iPhone.

Also, Photos on Mac doesn't have an option to download photos directly, so the only valid option Apple offers is to download them through the web interface (max 1,000 at a time).

There is no official way to download iCloud library that is over phone capacity. Period.

js2 16 hours ago|||
> Photos on Mac doesn't have an option to download photos directly

Yes it does. It's called Download Originals to this Mac.

https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/use-icloud-photos-pht...

You keep asserting to the contrary, but I've been syncing my entire photos library to my Mac for years, since it was iPhoto even.

Obviously if you have a larger photos library than storage space on a particular device, you cannot synchronize the entire library to that specific device. e.g. my photos library vastly exceeds my iPhone 13 mini storage, so on my iPhone, I don't sync everything. But my Mac has 2 TB of storage, and Photos is setup to sync all my photos, and does so, reliably, and has been, again, for years now.

Additionally, unlike with this open source tool, I can keep advanced data protection enabled.

reconnecting 15 hours ago||
This is from the iCloud manual:

> Any new photos and videos you add to Photos appear on all your devices that have iCloud Photos turned on.

You have your photos because they are new. If they had been taken before, they would not have synchronised automatically with Photos on MacOS.

coder543 15 hours ago||
Please stop repeating your incorrect points that are contradicted by everyone else’s real experiences.

Yes, new ones will be uploaded. That doesn’t mean old ones won’t also be downloaded.

reconnecting 15 hours ago||
I have tried 3 different Macs with different versions of macOS prior to looking for a workaround, and everywhere the result is the same: old photos are not downloaded automatically from iCloud, and there is no button to start this process - for this exact reason.

Want to prove me wrong? Create a new macOS user and open Photos with your iCloud. It will be empty until you start copying photos from your phone. It will take much less time than arguing here.

coder543 15 hours ago||
You're arguing with a lot of people who have personally seen this work. You can listen to other people. You can also go to an Apple Store and let them show you what's going wrong here.
reconnecting 14 hours ago||
Perhaps no one here has tried to download an entire iCloud library at once, or perhaps size is an issue, but that doesn't change the fact that there is no download button for iCloud Photos and iCloud Photos Downloader simply solves this. That's what this post is about.
troad 13 hours ago|||
I can personally confirm I've downloaded an entire iCloud library at once, to a brand new Mac, using the 'Download Originals to this Mac' option. As have many others here, I would think.

That's literally what that option is for.

If it's not working for you, you might be dealing with a bug, or perhaps you haven't given it enough time to sync. If you go to Photos > Library and scroll down, it should show you the sync status.

reconnecting 7 hours ago||
Thanks, that was a relief because I realised I didn't see the sync status at the bottom. It appears that Monterey hides the status message at the bottom by default, and I had to pull the page down twice to see it.

Long story short, iCloud wasn't syncing photos "due to performance" and this message was hidden.

Thanks once again!

coder543 14 hours ago||||
iCloud Photos Downloader is an option, yes, but it is incorrect to say that Apple does not provide an official way to do this on Mac. Again, I direct you to the Apple Store so someone can show you in person, since you won't listen to anyone on here.
reconnecting 7 hours ago||
I confirm that you was absolutely right!

Photos on MacOS indeed synchronise photos with iCloud.

After our conversation I had tried to understand why I indeed don't see any status and I found out, that to get one in Monterey iOS I must need to scroll down of the collection and after, at the bottom pul whole page for the second time. Status message appears and it was saying that syncing was disabled due to Mac performance (I didn't asked for this).

Apologies, for misleading, code543 and thank you for consistence.

However, I must admit that I'm happy that found iCloud Photos Downloader as a result, also I liked that it's downloading all photos in date/folder structure.

mingus88 10 hours ago|||
Let me be one more voice telling you that you are wrong. I just did this morning.

In settings, "download originals to this mac", select all photos, file -> "export unmodified originals" will trigger the Photos app to download every file from iCloud into your local library (as well as exporting them to wherever you want)

I guess "there is no download button" but dude...I don't need iCloud Photos Downloader.

reconnecting 7 hours ago|||
Thanks for letting me know. May I ask what macOS version you use?

Unfortunately, I'm unable to locate any button, status bar, or option to refresh or pull everything from iCloud in macOS Photos. There aren't even any details showing what percentage of iCloud is currently synchronized with macOS Photos. With nothing to debug, I can only conclude that for some reason the sync isn't working in my case.

It's great if this works for you and you don't need iCloud Photos Downloader, but for some reason I don't have that luxury.

reconnecting 6 hours ago|||
Thank you! The status message was indeed hidden on Monterey, and syncing was blocked due to "Performance."
fizwidget 16 hours ago|||
That doesn’t sound right. My photo library is larger than my iPhone’s storage yet downloads fine on my Mac. Just need to make sure “optimise storage” is enabled on the iPhone and disabled on the Mac.

Once everything’s downloaded on the Mac, you can either export through the Apple Photos menu or just copy the “originals” directly from the Photos bundle.

reconnecting 16 hours ago|||
This works because you had synchronised your iPhone with your Mac previously. If you start with an empty Photos library and phone, it is impossible to put all the photos on the phone and thus transfer them to your Mac.
fizwidget 12 hours ago|||
No, I’ve downloaded the entire library to a new Mac. It worked fine.
reconnecting 6 hours ago||
Thank you. Yes, indeed. I found out that Monterey is not syncing iCloud due to "Performance".
fakedang 16 hours ago|||
And people say Linux is hard to work with....
reconnecting 17 hours ago||||
Okay, and if there are 300 or 500 GB of photos, how do you synchronise them with your iPhone?
mxfh 4 hours ago||
You can't run random cli-tools on your iOS phone either.
hu3 17 hours ago||||
that's good to know. can I then download the photos from iPhone to a backup hard-drive or transfer to a folder in my computer?
hackpelican 17 hours ago||
Yes over USB 2.0 until recently.
Nextgrid 17 hours ago|||
Thanks to Apple's exceptional software quality the app has plenty of bugs and good luck exporting a lot of files out of said library - you're in for an endless game of spinners (it does some network IO on the main thread), "not responding" and memory leaks.

But hey at least we've got Liquid (gl)ass now.

wookmaster 16 hours ago|||
Worked well for me for 70k photos but took a long time
CharlesW 17 hours ago|||
> Thanks to Apple's exceptional software quality the app has plenty of bugs…

I use Photos for macOS daily and I've never run into a bug with my 50K+ photos library. (To be fair, Photos doesn't do that much, and I use it more as a master catalog with Aperture's spiritual successor Nitro.)

> …and good luck exporting a lot of files out of said library…

Not sure why you would need luck to copy the "Originals" folder from the library package.

reddalo 17 hours ago|||
Technically, there is: users of the European Union can get a full export of all data that Apple has about them, including all the stored photos. It can be requested from here: https://privacy.apple.com/
catskull 17 hours ago|||
I was able to request a photo dump as a non-EU customer using this link.
ireadmevs 17 hours ago||||
How does the archive they provide look like? Many zip files? I would like to retrieve them and offload to another storage service but I don’t have local storage enough to hold all of it at the same time, unpack and then reupload. I would need to do it in stages.
Tempest1981 16 hours ago|||
Yes, many ZIP files. You can select the ZIP file sizes, from 1 to 25 GB, iirc. Although a few end up larger than 25 for some reason. And took 1-2 days for Apple to "prepare".
prawn 10 hours ago||||
You can request a chunk size and then it prepares them. I specified max chunk size and it took almost a week to give me a list of file downloads from 45-60GB each. 31 zip files to download.
lostlogin 17 hours ago|||
While that’s a pain for you, it’s also a pain if they have multiple files for those that have enough storage.

Photo management is a bit of a nightmare as it’s an awful lot of small(ish) files.

SchemaLoad 15 hours ago||||
Doesn't work if you have Advanced Data Protection (end to end encryption) enabled.
reconnecting 16 hours ago|||
It sounds really weird that instead of making a separate utility, or allowing you to download iCloud Photos in the native Photos application on Mac, Apple requires you to go through a legal procedure.

I'm OK with clicking a button to download all photos to Mac, but there is no such button. Or maybe there was one previously, but it has now disappeared.

einsteinx2 15 hours ago||
> or allowing you to download iCloud Photos in the native Photos application on Mac

Here’s the official documentation page for exporting directly using Photos for Mac without syncing everything locally: https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/download-photos-to-yo...

You can also choose to sync all photos locally with Photos for Mac by setting “Download Originals to this Mac” as described on this page which is what I do to keep a local copy: https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/photos-settings-pht51...

If your Mac doesn’t have enough space, export them to a USB hard drive or if you’re using the download originals option, first move your library location to the USB drive as also described on the link above.

reconnecting 6 hours ago|||
You were absolutely right. Someone in the thread mentioned a status indicator, and it triggered me that I hadn't seen it at all.

It appears that on Monterey I need to pull the page down twice to show the sync status, and when I found it, the message said that photos weren't syncing due to "Performance."

reconnecting 14 hours ago|||
Thank you.

That's exactly what I expected to work, but for some reason this approach failed for me on a new Mac with an empty Photos library. I enabled "Download Originals," but 10+ years of iCloud photos never appeared. There's no manual "fetch all from iCloud" button, no progress indicator, no way to diagnose what's wrong - the sync just silently fails. Luckily, iCloud Photos Downloader bypasses Photos entirely and pulls directly from iCloud.

nemothekid 17 hours ago|||
I think if you are on PC. But on Mac with the Photos App

Cmd+A > File > Export Unmodified Originals

reconnecting 16 hours ago||
There is no straight way to download photos from iCloud to Mac.
wookmaster 15 hours ago||
The comment you're replying to just gave one, I did it recently for 70k photos. select all > export. That's it. It just took 30 hours.
cdrnsf 18 hours ago||
I'm not sure it's surprising. Apple doesn't want you to leave and making something as important as your photos difficult to move helps with that.
Tempest1981 16 hours ago|||
From 2024:

> Users of Google and Apple’s photo cloud services can now transfer images between them. It was already possible to export photos and videos from iCloud to Google Photos, but now it can also be done the other way around: from Google Photos to iCloud.

https://www.techzine.eu/news/applications/122196/google-and-... (2023 Data Transfer Initiative (DTI))

lostlogin 17 hours ago|||
What’s missing?

The files are there on the Mac, they are there to download on the cloud (various mentions of method mentioned here).

reconnecting 16 hours ago||
There is NO button on Mac to download photos from iCloud. You can only do this from your phone and then synchronise them to your Mac.
coder543 16 hours ago|||
Yes, there is a button on Mac: https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/use-icloud-photos-pht...

As long as you are signed into the Mac with the same iCloud account used on the iPhone, this will download them all. No, you do not need to get them all downloaded to the iPhone ever for any reason for this to work. Period. You need to stop repeating that, because it is wrong. How many people have to say the same thing?

Yes, you will have to go into a hidden folder to access the Originals once they're downloaded if you want to copy them somewhere else, but it's like two clicks.

reconnecting 15 hours ago||
I've been using Mac since Mac OS X 10.4 (~2005) and was under the same impression.

However, in reality, when you use the same Apple account on both devices with the Photos app on macOS (yes, with the 'Download Originals' checkbox enabled), it only downloads photos that you upload from your phone.

And if you look at the iCloud tab in the Photos app, it says 'Automatically _upload_ and store all your photos and videos in iCloud', so it works from Mac to iCloud, and doesn't help to download full iCloud library.

coder543 15 hours ago||
No, you are not correct. How many people have to tell you this?

It absolutely works the way I said it does, because I have seen it work that way. Just because you accidentally turned off iCloud Photos in your Apple Account settings on that Mac (or some other similar issue) does not mean it does not work this way when properly signed in.

If you want something to try, go to System Settings -> Apple Account -> Photos and see if "Sync this mac" is turned off. It needs to be on. There could be other ways that this feature is disabled, but that is one of them.

Not seeing something work is not evidence that it does not work. You have not seen it work, but that is not proof it does not work.

Seeing it work is evidence that it works. I have seen it work.

Other people have seen it work that way, and their replies are all over this thread. Apple documents that it works this way.

Yes, it will upload photos to iCloud if enabled, but it also downloads them.

reconnecting 15 hours ago||
When you take a new photo, it synchronises with all your devices, and therefore you see it on your Mac, iPhone, etc. However, if you get a new Mac (I got one because my library was under capacity), Photos will not start synchronising your 10-year-old photos until you process them through the phone.

I hope I've made it clear now.

coder543 15 hours ago||
Your point has been clear the whole time. It is still not correct.
raw_anon_1111 16 hours ago||||
You can use the Photos app on your Mac and download originals
mr_toad 16 hours ago||||
There are two options in the file menu - you can export the originals, and there is an option to export them as .jpg.
reconnecting 16 hours ago||
From iPhotos (Photos) app to hard drive.

Subject is to download photos from iCloud.

lostlogin 7 hours ago||
When you first turn on iCloud Photos, it can take a while to upload your photos to iCloud. You can continue to use Photos while your photos are being uploaded. To have iCloud Photos sync photos to all your devices, sign in to the same Apple Account to turn on iCloud Photos on all your devices.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/photos/phtf5e48489c/ma...

wookmaster 15 hours ago||||
Select all, Files > Export. It's simple to download iCloud Photos.
lostlogin 16 hours ago|||
One of us is missing something. In Photos.app I clicked download originals. The photos are there on my Mac. It’s bit gross to get at them though - right click on app > show package contents.

Are you wanting a way that doesn’t involve the photos app?

You can do that from iCloud over a browser.

reconnecting 15 hours ago||
If you open the Photos app (macOS) connected to iCloud with an empty library, there will be no photos until you import them from your phone. Hope this is clear now.

iCloud via browser has a limit of 1k photos per download.

lostlogin 7 hours ago|||
This is not correct.

You don’t need an iPhone for Photos.app to work.

There are plenty of problems with Photos.app but the issue you describe isn’t by design.

reconnecting 7 hours ago||
My bad — it appears that Monterey wasn't syncing with iCloud due to "Performance." Photos on Monterey hides the status message at the bottom of the page, and I had to pull the page down twice to finally see it.

Thank you for proving me wrong.

thw_9a83c 3 hours ago||
From the project describtion: "Looking for MAINTAINER for this project"

Honestly, Apple should officially maintain tools like this. However, for obvious reasons, such as the iCloud subscription revenue model, Apple will not do it. In fact, Apple may even make life harder for such tools.

xattt 2 hours ago|
I’m in the midst of a backup-to-local project and, with this post to HN, I’m worried an Apple project manager will be on a mission this morning to get his team to cripple this software.
nik_0_0 14 hours ago||
This is awesome! This might be a great replacement to attempting to get the Windows app to work. Has anyone had luck with the iCloud app on windows?

Similar to some other folks in this thread I have ~2TB of iCloud data, a Macbook with far less than 2TB of space, an external hard drive somewhere with the external Photo Library that I need to plug in if I want to look at photos on the Macbook, and a Windows desktop with 10TB+ of rusty disks.

I was excited when they added the iCloud app + iCloud photos to Windows, but it never seems to catch up or finish what it is doing. It appears to be almost constantly download at 50MB/s, stressing both disk & internet, and yet navigating to the folder reveals that they are all 'available when online'.

It seems like there is not an option in Windows to actually grab everything in full quality (actually now that I look at it - its gotten to 944GB on disk / 1.91TB total, so it is getting there.)

I guess a real question - with these photos finally on a Windows desktop - is there a better photo browser than Microsoft photos that can show the HEIC and the Live Photo?

lkmill 1 hour ago|
immich (self hosted photos app, https://immich.app/) "stacks" live photos with their videos
jasonkester 7 hours ago||
I was there until I saw this feature:

Automatic de-duplication of photos with the same name

I recently went through a year’s worth of photos from my wife’s phone, and found three distinct “img_0001.jpg”’s just in that single year. Apple’s naming convention is so short sighted that I’d be terrified letting a piece of software try to dedupe it “by name “

j16sdiz 7 hours ago|
> ... Apple’s naming convention.

No, it is not. It came from DCF standard that predates smart phones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_sy...

j16sdiz 7 hours ago||
The 4 digits numbers are, of cause, came from the 8.3 file name length constraint. Gonna love CP/M.
ndegruchy 16 hours ago||
While not free, and not for any other platform than macOS. The program Parachute[1] in the App Store is very nice in downloading both photos from your library as well as files from the various locations.

[1]: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/parachute-backup/id6748614170?...

dawnerd 15 hours ago||
Another option for iOS at least is PhotoSync. It’s nice, you can pull from photos and push to basically any remote service or local server. I have it backing up to both my nas and b2.
8fingerlouie 16 hours ago|||
It works well enough, but it's not without flaws either.

The desktop version works reliably, if you can get macOS to keep shares mounted for long enough, and mount them on request. The scheduler is also kinda wonky.

The iOS version has so far never finished an incremental backup overnight of our ~1TB individual libraries. It handles resume/suspend well, but for some reason, while it exports unmodified originals, it doesn't include AAE files, which the desktop version does.

PhotoSync does everything right, with the exception of trying to keep state of what has been exported, which makes little sense as it doesn't support restoring photos.

teamspirit 16 hours ago|||
Anyone know if it works with ADP? I emailed them months ago but no one ever replied.

On a related question, is there a download solution that does work with ADP? I’m looking to mitigate any potential account lockout issues for family members (and, no, they will not switch out of the ecosystem).

8fingerlouie 16 hours ago|||
It does. It uses PhotoKit to access photos, so it basically uses your Apple Photos app (iOS or Mac) to download the photos.

The only scripted solution I can think of that works with ADP is osxphotos[^1], but that also uses PhotoKit, and requires the user to be signed in.

Personally I use PhotoSync [^2] to backup our photos from phones to a NAS. It works reliably, and supports exporting unmodified originals as well as edited versions, and XMP/AAE metadata alongside it.

^1: https://github.com/RhetTbull/osxphotos

^2: https://www.photosync-app.com/home

arcanemachiner 16 hours ago|||
Advanced Data Protection
SilverElfin 16 hours ago|||
Is there a way to verify this all is safe to use? Like it won’t do something weird privacy wise? Any equivalent for windows?
reconnecting 16 hours ago||
I have the same paranoia, so I was happy to learn that someone made an open-source downloader for iCloud.
malshe 16 hours ago||
Thanks for the link
WhyNotHugo 15 hours ago||
I’ve been using usbmuxd+ifuse to copy the photo files straight from the phone. No need to wait for an upload/download to some remote server, just a direct cable from the phone to my computer. I get the original files, and can even move (instead of copy) to clear up the phone.
kimos 14 hours ago|
This works on any iPhone? It mounts the non-privileged DCIM folder or whatever over USB to somewhere on your filesystem? With write access?
ivanjermakov 13 hours ago||
Yes, yes, no.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/IOS#Transferring_data

mmh0000 17 hours ago||
I run this periodically from a little shell script; I "should" automate it, but time is scarce.

  ⟩ cat ~/bin/icloud_download
  #!/bin/bash
  mkdir "$(pwd)"/{photos,cookies} 2> /dev/null
  
  if [[ -z "${ICLOUD_USERNAME}" ]]; then
      echo "need env ICLOUD_USERNAME"
      exit 1
  fi
  if [[ -z "${ICLOUD_PASSWORD}" ]]; then
      echo "need env ICLOUD_PASSWORD"
      exit 1
  fi
  
  podman container run -it --rm --name icloud \
      -v $(pwd)/photos:/data \
      -v $(pwd)/cookies:/cookies \
      -e TZ=America/Boise \
      icloudpd/icloudpd:latest \
      icloudpd --directory /data \
      --cookie-directory /cookies \
      --folder-structure {:%Y/%Y-%m-%d} \
      --username "${ICLOUD_USERNAME}" \
      --password "${ICLOUD_PASSWORD}" \
      --size original
koolba 17 hours ago|
> icloudpd/icloudpd:latest

Passing your raw iCloud creds into the unverified latest tag is fine until it’s not. Better to pin to a specific tag or hash.

mmh0000 17 hours ago||
You're not wrong. I know I need to put more work into it. Just haven't had time.

I'm "protected" by the fact Podman doesn't automatically update the latest image even when using the latest tag.

I was more showing how simple icloudpd is to use.

shireboy 16 hours ago|
I was just thinking about this today. Apples lack of any 3rd party integration for things like this and iMessage is really annoying sometimes. In addition to a secondary backup, I’d love to automatically sync some photos from a certain album to my parents photo frame. Or if I take a nice nature shot have it sync to a Samsung frame tv. I get the benefits of the walled garden but esp w photos and messaging it seems like opening up a little would allow for some innovation
jackvalentine 14 hours ago|
I use PhotoSync on my phone for this - select which albums to sync where with a rule and away you go.
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