Posted by dbushell 1/23/2026
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Canter_and_Martha_Sie...
I wonder what the legislation says (I'm in Germany). I know that some business related mails are deemed legal, but this seems to clearly cross the line.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/hold-mojang-accountable-for-their...
I've contacted the support, but they basically don't care.
There are not multiple ways to fight back against this behavior. I am now with mailfence until they start the same circus.
I've always had a very good experience with them. It's cheap, fast and their spam filter works well. Maybe 1x-2x a year I get an email from them about some promotion but that's it.
I use them for email and that’s all I want. Every time they market some new product to me, I get closer to moving to a new provider.
Proton's very questionable design and claims around encrypted emails and their service offerings made me concerned, which were the main reasons I went with Fastmail.
So far it has worked well, and I hope it stays that way.
1 - there was a persistent, very visible at all time big ass button on the Proton-Mail UI asking/suggesting to upgrade to a more premium plan, while I was already a paid customer. It was done in a way that was so wrong. Never experienced such frustrating things elsewhere even with my 99% full google drive.
2 - This must’ve been 2022 or 2023 Black Friday/cyber Monday season and there was a persistant, hardcoded, very annoying pop up that would immediately spawn each time I was opening Proton-Mail, asking me against to upgrade to the more premium plan than the premium I had, this will spawn every time I refresh despite hitting “don’t show this again”.
There are so many slick and smart way to get customer to use more services. Shoving unsolicited pop ups and spams is the worst thing you could do for your brand. I even start to wonder about their core values of privacy and whatnot, they play the suiss neutral privacy friendly so badly, their head of marketing is either so bad and should be fired or we going to discover another [Crypto AG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG) scandal.
I have created a ticket with the Fastmail support asking them more details about the vulnerability you mention in your thread, I’m curious to see their response.
> When forwarding an email as an attachment and later checking the headers of the attached email, I could not find the X-resolved-to header
this is odd, no? This header field should remain.
And regarding that FM Privacy First declaration, this is now 404.
> Companies have no way of linking different Masked Email addresses together to track you.
I have received the Fastmail support response, and since they do not consider this a vulnerability, I'll post it here:
- You have a Masked Email
- You have set up forwarding from your Fastmail account to another email service
- The other email service rejects the mail for some reason
- The bounce message goes back to the original sender, and may include the email addresses along the chain after the Masked Email address.
I'm assuming the bounce message contains the X-Resolved-To header mentioned in the other HN thread linked above.
Did you request escalation?
Is there a crowd that just drools whenever a new way to "Build AI Agwnts" or "Agentic Workflows" comes out or something?
AFAIK you are legally allowed to spam businesses, but not individuals. A handy get-out clause for marketeers.