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Posted by CharlesW 1/23/2026

Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee(arstechnica.com)
345 points | 366 commentspage 4
siliconc0w 1/23/2026|
Article is unclear but if this is saying you can't even get basic ADAS w/out $99/mo that is a pretty big deal, especially if it's applied to existing cars.

Basic stay-in-line and start/stop following in traffic has become pretty standard for almost a decade at this point and paywalling it now would be outrageous. I have a 2017 car that does this.

tzs 1/24/2026||
According to other articles adaptive cruise control (which works down to 0 mph in stop and go traffic) is being kept standard. It is just the rest of Autopilot that is moving to a subscription.
tokyobreakfast 1/23/2026||
Basic ADAS is government-mandated. Even shitbox Toyotas with traditional ignition keys have it for free.
rootusrootus 1/23/2026|||
Do you have a source for that? I'm not aware of any regulation requiring ADAS. Even automatic emergency breaking is not yet required for a few more years.
enragedcacti 1/23/2026||||
It is in the EU but in the US ADAS won't be mandated until 2029. It would tank your IIHS rating though and all major mfgs have met a voluntary pledge to have >95% light duty vehicles ship with autobraking by 2023: https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/automakers-fulfill-autobrak...
hermanzegerman 1/23/2026|||
Well Teslas now ship without the Lane Keeping. So the Toyota Shitbox has better ADAS (and surely also a better quality)
ArekDymalski 1/23/2026||
What will be the next step? ignition? wipers? opening passenger doors? charging for functionality that several manufacturers offer for past several years sounds like desperation to get any revenue.
palata 1/23/2026|
As long as people buy them, they have no reason not to do it. What I can't understand is why people buy those cars in the first place.
ChrisArchitect 1/23/2026||
Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46618435
t1234s 1/23/2026||
The basic autopilot is very useful. It would be nice if they offered it as a one-time fee when ordering your car.
waffletower 1/23/2026||
Tesla's autopilot was so clumsy that I stopped using it and forgot about it years ago. I like the adaptive cruise control though, it is more transparent and decidedly more of a benefit, except for its phantom braking moments. Autopilot's requirement that your hands be on the wheel (and do nothing) is a strain over time, definitely boring, and a terrible interface. I don't understand why people would pay for such an awkward feature. The monthlong demos of Full Self Driving I tried were even more awkward. The need to keep your hands on the wheel required a different but nearly equivalent cognitive load to actual steering, when using it in residential and city traffic. The crucial difference is that "the car was driving me" rather than "I was driving the car". Tesla can't convince everyone that their driver assist technology warrants product status; take away driver autonomy and make them pay for it seems like a failure to me. It won't be a product until you can sit in the back, close your eyes and safely arrive at your destination. Good luck getting to that level of quality with this business model. Tesla should be giving the tech away to its car owners and collecting as much data as they can, right? I have points to spare for the astroturf Muskovites to downvote my honest (but embarrassed) customer perspective.
nehal3m 1/23/2026||
I drive one on Dutch roads, and a lot of the back roads (60km/h) are one lane with dotted lines on the side like here: [1]

If you turn on TACC, it will constantly whine that you're hugging the side of 'your lane'. But it's one lane for both directions, you're supposed to hug your side!

In my SAAB I used cruise control anywhere I expected to maintain speed for any amount of time. In the Y I don't bother on this type of road because it bitches at me constantly and sometimes even jerks me to the middle of the lane. That's never happened with oncoming traffic but I'm not risking it.

[1]https://shorturl.at/jSQhP (shortened, Maps links are huge)

compton 1/23/2026|||
well, years ago is a long time in tech. the latest videos I've seen show people not having to touch the wheel any more, and it apparently drives fairly long complex routes with no intervention.

There's even Teslas operating as "auto taxis" now in some cities - they drive entirely without anyone even in the driver seat.

waffletower 1/23/2026||
I TL;DR the update release notes, and wasn't aware that the wheel holding requirements were gone. I am not convinced yet, as I got a phantom "take control of your vehicle" alert when leaving the driveway a few weeks ago, for no apparent reason (hands on wheel, no visible hazards). They happen every once in a while. My daughter has been thinking of using the Tesla alert sound in one of her trap songs given our familiarity with it.
vlovich123 1/23/2026|||
I would recommend testing out the latest FSD. It’s made huge forward steps vs what was there before.
heisenbit 1/23/2026||
Musk is a true genius: You were paying first for the hardware and then to conduct training supervision for the AI while taking full responsibility if something goes wrong.
tehwebguy 1/23/2026||
$8,000 / $99 / month is 6 years 8 months.

How long do people keep their Tesla normally?

physhster 1/23/2026||
Is this an ad for comma.ai? Because it sure reads like one...
1970-01-01 1/23/2026|
$99!

Not worth it for anyone doing less than 100 miles/day.

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