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Posted by imalerba 5 hours ago

Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?(ztechtalk.com)
330 points | 265 commentspage 2
al_borland 5 hours ago|
It looks like MS Teams will never be getting installed on my phone.

I don’t even allow location sharing with my own family on and ongoing basis.

mosselman 5 hours ago||
Some people don't have a choice. Of course they could choose to lose their job over it, but for some that is not an option.

I also totally don't get why you would want to share your location, even with family. I don't want to know where they are either.

xoxxala 5 hours ago|||
After they killed Skype, I tried to install the mobile Teams app. It wouldn't sync properly with the desktop app, so deleted it and forgot it existed. So glad it wouldn't work!
Hamuko 4 hours ago||
I installed it on my iPhone but didn't allow Bluetooth access or location access. I imagine it can't really do much with how iOS is. I also don't take my work phone with me if I go outside, so Wi-Fi tracking would be fairly useless anyway.
Twisell 4 hours ago||
Guess it's true unless you have a company issued phone that is managed. But then maybe it's less shocking as long as you are allowed to totally turn it off outside work hours.
voldemolt 3 hours ago||
There was an article here not too long ago about someone decrying a fellow cow-worker for their rather liberal usage of AI and how their manager would see it and promote it, changing company process in the meantime. The writer found this revulsive. But what I found interesting is what was not discussed. This “Microsoft just did X” is another entry in that.

Folks, let’s not beat around the bush: if you’re not your own boss, you don’t have agency and ultimately you have no control over the situation. The frustration is rooted in the lack of control, or at the very least in the lack of perception of cooperation that is a temporary substitute for agency and control (until the rug gets pulled from underneath them). It’s not Microsoft, it’s not Teams, it’s not AI. It’s not the person being promoted for doing this. It’s you. If it was your company, you could have put an end to it and changed the processes immediately. But it isn’t. So for having the privilege of working at whatever company you’re at, and getting paid whatever money you’re paid, you have to eat shit. This is the price you pay.

If you don’t want to eat shit from your bosses, you have to be your own boss. I think that’s as succinct and straightforward of a solution to things like these that you can find.

kitsune1 1 hour ago|
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smeej 4 hours ago||
> Remember when you could text Dave from the office to turn your PC on because you were stuck in traffic?

I don't understand why this doesn't still work. If Dave from the office has access to your PC, presumably Dave and your PC are in the office, connected to your office's network, and thus it would appear that you are in the office?

Or is the assumption that you're carrying another device with you that would give you away? In which case, shouldn't the complaint be more about being forced to perform some kind of work task (like carrying/being accessible by your phone) when you're off the clock...which is hardly a new issue/complaint?

djha-skin 5 hours ago||
> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly.

Looks like I need to rename my home wifi to "Corporate Network."

BrouteMinou 3 hours ago||
I think the only outrageous people here are the paranoid and the slackers...

My manager has called me when I was doing a mid-day grocery and I just told him: "sorry for the noise, I am at the grocery store at the moment". This is absolutely no problem at all, he asked if I wanted to call back when I got home...

It's pretty much making a storm in a glass of water here.

That's karma farming by bitching the ebil Microsoft...

hsbauauvhabzb 3 hours ago|
Sounds like you work in a nice place. Most organisations are not nice places.
alistairSH 4 hours ago||
Assuming your office has entry gated with a badge (which I assume most do in 2026), don't they already know when you're physically at the office?

Heck, my employer's entry system was already coupled to my phone's location (optional, but meant I didn't have to reserve a desk manually). So, I already looked like I was coming to the office on weekends because the grocery store is next door.

EDIT: not to mention Teams already shows your status as "Away" if you don't type for 5 minutes. Sitting there reading a document - yep, you're clearly smoking in the parking lot or wandering around gossiping.

SoftTalker 4 hours ago||
Yep there are so many ways an employer can know if you're coming to the office or not, if they really care.
danesparza 4 hours ago||
And cameras inside the office
bambax 5 hours ago||
> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly

But what if I have a secondary wifi network in my home that says "BigCorpSuperSecureWifi", wouldn't that work? What if that's the name of my phone's hotspot?

dleslie 4 hours ago||
For what it's worth, unless it can be conclusively argued that surveillance is necessary for the task to be done this sort of continuous surveillance is illegal in Quebec, Alberta and British Columbia. It violates the privacy of employees.
midtake 4 hours ago||
Most middle managers will either not require this, or require it but find ways to themselves avoid being tagged as logging into their home wifi. The prevailing culture around middle-management is one of inefficiency and rule avoidance. Middle managers need to be replaced by AI already.
y-curious 5 hours ago|
Can I kill this via pihole somehow? My wife uses teams. This is a sick “tool” that will be wielded asymmetrically by middle management to fire people
absqueued 2 hours ago||
I have started to use Teams in Firefox browser since last two weeks. Uninstalled app in laptop and phone.

And phone dns always goes through pihole. Could this work in your case?

pixl97 5 hours ago|||
Things like this blocking as extremely easy to detect and flag. Because they control the app they can always in-band the information to servers you need to connect to.
pogue 5 hours ago||
Modded Teams APK?
gmueckl 5 hours ago||
On a company-managed device?
wizzwizz4 4 hours ago||
It's more likely than you think.
pogue 4 hours ago||
I'm sure it depends on the make/model and how locked down it is or if they even care
pogue 5 hours ago|||
VPN? Fake GPS? I know some routers have an option not to broadcast the name of the network but I'm not sure how that works.
delusional 5 hours ago|||
Any middle management thinking of enabling this technology will make it mandatory. If you blackhole the traffic, that's also reason to fire you.
reactordev 5 hours ago|||
Do they need a reason anymore? Most US is at-will to work.
jdmichal 5 hours ago|||
They don't need a reason to fire you. They need a reason to fire you and not pay unemployment benefits.
reactordev 5 hours ago||
unemployment benefits are so low do they really care that much?

Unemployment benefits for me would be 3% annually of my annual salary.

inetknght 4 hours ago|||
Unemployment benefits are so low, they're barely enough to pay for food. Not enough to also pay for utilities, and definitely not enough to pay rent/mortgage.

This is intended to force you back into the slave market.

smeej 4 hours ago|||
They don't pay the benefits directly. They pay a tax rate based on how many people who file for unemployment benefits are determined to be eligible for them.
kube-system 4 hours ago|||
All of the US is at-will except Montana.
SoftTalker 4 hours ago|||
Why would they want to fire you? And if they do, they will find a reason.
guluarte 4 hours ago||
I guess you can use wireguard and install a vpn server on your work pc, that being said if your company has a semi competent IT team they will notice that, if you work from home just install wg easy https://github.com/wg-easy/wg-easy

this only works if you control the device and not managed by your company

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