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Posted by imalerba 7 days ago

Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?(ztechtalk.com)
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api 7 days ago|
Microsoft really seems to be tripling and quadrupling down on total surveillance of the user's "own" system. If you haven't ditched MS yet, I'd consider it now.

Linux is becoming more and more viable for a gaming PC. For business uses a Linux desktop is usable but probably not ideal, but you also have macOS. I'd pick anything but Windows and MS stuff.

djha-skin 7 days ago||
> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly.

Looks like I need to rename my home wifi to "Corporate Network."

smeej 7 days ago||
> Remember when you could text Dave from the office to turn your PC on because you were stuck in traffic?

I don't understand why this doesn't still work. If Dave from the office has access to your PC, presumably Dave and your PC are in the office, connected to your office's network, and thus it would appear that you are in the office?

Or is the assumption that you're carrying another device with you that would give you away? In which case, shouldn't the complaint be more about being forced to perform some kind of work task (like carrying/being accessible by your phone) when you're off the clock...which is hardly a new issue/complaint?

hsbauauvhabzb 7 days ago|
Most people I know who wfh use laptops.
smeej 4 days ago||
This doesn't answer the question, though. If Dave could cover for you before, whether your computer was a desktop or laptop, it'd have to be at the office. This way...it still would.
alistairSH 7 days ago||
Assuming your office has entry gated with a badge (which I assume most do in 2026), don't they already know when you're physically at the office?

Heck, my employer's entry system was already coupled to my phone's location (optional, but meant I didn't have to reserve a desk manually). So, I already looked like I was coming to the office on weekends because the grocery store is next door.

EDIT: not to mention Teams already shows your status as "Away" if you don't type for 5 minutes. Sitting there reading a document - yep, you're clearly smoking in the parking lot or wandering around gossiping.

SoftTalker 7 days ago||
Yep there are so many ways an employer can know if you're coming to the office or not, if they really care.
danesparza 7 days ago||
And cameras inside the office
bambax 7 days ago||
> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly

But what if I have a secondary wifi network in my home that says "BigCorpSuperSecureWifi", wouldn't that work? What if that's the name of my phone's hotspot?

y-curious 7 days ago||
Can I kill this via pihole somehow? My wife uses teams. This is a sick “tool” that will be wielded asymmetrically by middle management to fire people
pixl97 7 days ago||
Things like this blocking as extremely easy to detect and flag. Because they control the app they can always in-band the information to servers you need to connect to.
pogue 7 days ago||
Modded Teams APK?
gmueckl 7 days ago||
On a company-managed device?
wizzwizz4 7 days ago||
It's more likely than you think.
pogue 7 days ago||
I'm sure it depends on the make/model and how locked down it is or if they even care
y-curious 7 days ago||
He was referencing this meme, friend: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-more-likely-than-you-thin...
guluarte 7 days ago|||
I guess you can use wireguard and install a vpn server on your work pc, that being said if your company has a semi competent IT team they will notice that, if you work from home just install wg easy https://github.com/wg-easy/wg-easy

this only works if you control the device and not managed by your company

absqueued 7 days ago|||
I have started to use Teams in Firefox browser since last two weeks. Uninstalled app in laptop and phone.

And phone dns always goes through pihole. Could this work in your case?

y-curious 7 days ago||
Great ideas thanks
pogue 7 days ago|||
VPN? Fake GPS? I know some routers have an option not to broadcast the name of the network but I'm not sure how that works.
delusional 7 days ago||
Any middle management thinking of enabling this technology will make it mandatory. If you blackhole the traffic, that's also reason to fire you.
reactordev 7 days ago|||
Do they need a reason anymore? Most US is at-will to work.
jdmichal 7 days ago|||
They don't need a reason to fire you. They need a reason to fire you and not pay unemployment benefits.
reactordev 7 days ago||
unemployment benefits are so low do they really care that much?

Unemployment benefits for me would be 3% annually of my annual salary.

inetknght 7 days ago|||
Unemployment benefits are so low, they're barely enough to pay for food. Not enough to also pay for utilities, and definitely not enough to pay rent/mortgage.

This is intended to force you back into the slave market.

smeej 7 days ago|||
They don't pay the benefits directly. They pay a tax rate based on how many people who file for unemployment benefits are determined to be eligible for them.
kube-system 7 days ago|||
All of the US is at-will except Montana.
SoftTalker 7 days ago|||
Why would they want to fire you? And if they do, they will find a reason.
BrouteMinou 7 days ago||
I think the only outrageous people here are the paranoid and the slackers...

My manager has called me when I was doing a mid-day grocery and I just told him: "sorry for the noise, I am at the grocery store at the moment". This is absolutely no problem at all, he asked if I wanted to call back when I got home...

It's pretty much making a storm in a glass of water here.

That's karma farming by bitching the ebil Microsoft...

hsbauauvhabzb 7 days ago|
Sounds like you work in a nice place. Most organisations are not nice places.
lastofthemojito 7 days ago||
Some of my neighbors have some rather colorful Wifi SSIDs. I've seen some silly ones like "FBI SURVEILLANCE" as well as at least one crudely expressing their opinion of the current US President. Probably won't be long now before we see someone get fired because their boss saw the name of their home Wifi network.
ajcp 7 days ago||
My go-to SSID will always be "Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--". For all others I just use a ship name from The Culture universe[0] like "Of Course I Still Love You" or "Just Read the Instructions".

0. https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft

saltwatercowboy 7 days ago||
My SSID similarly used to be "Two For Flinching" :)
dehrmann 7 days ago||
> Teams on Mac

> And obviously, the mobile app (your pocket spy).

Don't these ask for location permissions? This story is light on details.

bri3d 7 days ago||
The roadmap feature is light on details too: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to enable it and require end-users to opt-in."

I found a lot of news stories about this dating back to where it showed up on the roadmap in early 2025, but none of them with any more implementation details (ie - is it using _only_ WiFi network name, or some other data too?)

entuno 7 days ago|||
The Teams Android app just asked for location permission today for me for the first time. And got denied.
relaxing 7 days ago||
Teams on iOS doesn’t appear to use location services at all. The option to turn it on or off just isn’t there.
midtake 7 days ago|
Most middle managers will either not require this, or require it but find ways to themselves avoid being tagged as logging into their home wifi. The prevailing culture around middle-management is one of inefficiency and rule avoidance. Middle managers need to be replaced by AI already.
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