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Posted by cdrnsf 8 hours ago

Flock CEO calls Deflock a “terrorist organization” (2025) [video](www.youtube.com)
467 points | 314 commentspage 2
sbuttgereit 7 hours ago|
Probably worth posting some links to the Institute for Justice's "Project on the Fourth Amendment":

https://ij.org/issues/ijs-project-on-the-4th-amendment/

This Project includes work to fight technologies such as Flock's in the courts:

https://ij.org/issues/ijs-project-on-the-4th-amendment/licen...

I've always felt good contributing to IJ and the topic and takes in the posted video are precisely why I do so.

vgeek 7 hours ago||
Flock (YC17)
bsimpson 7 hours ago|
I've been online long enough that when I hear "Flock," I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flock_(web_browser)
mmaunder 3 hours ago||
"Above aboard", "Capitalistic", "Terroristic". Interesting cluster of idiom and register errors. Suggests limited exposure to written English.
lrvick 7 hours ago||
I would not do this now, but teenage me would be spray painting every lens. Not to give anyone ideas...
nine_k 7 hours ago||
This is inefficient. Some semi-transparent laquer applied to the lens that makes the picture permanently blurred would be much less conspicuous.
culi 5 hours ago||
An infrared laser beam could also do the trick. The beam would be invisible to the human eye
culi 5 hours ago||
People are so out of touch with how far the US has slipped into surveillance capitalism. You simply cannot get away with doing stuff like that today.
lrvick 4 hours ago|||
Not with that attitude.

There are tens of millions of people pirating software and media and blocking ads. There are not enough prisons to hold them all so the law is not enforceable at that scale.

Likewise there have always been and will always be effective non violent forms of resistance with sufficient systems of coordination and communication, because the public is always larger in number than the oppressors.

trinsic2 4 hours ago||
>Not with that attitude.

LOL. Love that. You got to have a better attitude if you want to fight the system my friend.

direwolf20 54 minutes ago|||
And yet, people do. Perhaps by slipping into some unsurveilled hidey hole, changing into a black hoodie, doing the crime, and running away before the police arrive
benmw333 7 hours ago||
I dislike this person and company. That is putting it mildly.
culi 5 hours ago|
If you wanna go a little further than leaving milquetoast comments on the internet:

https://alpr.watch/

creatonez 6 hours ago||
Flock is a terrorist organization
hrimfaxi 8 hours ago||
Man everything about this interview is so cringe.
splatter9859 8 hours ago||
Yep.

Everything about his body language screams, "I'm doing something slimy and I know it, but here, listen to these words spoken authoritatively whilst I wave my hands around and forget about it."

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

rhcom2 6 hours ago||
Would have been nice if the interviewer pushed back more than "lol I don't think they would agree". Spineless.
DavidPiper 6 hours ago||
Spineless seems a bit harsh. The interviewee did open with an unveiled threat of legal action against anyone who disagrees with him.
wat10000 1 hour ago||
There was a time when the media would take pride in smacking down some moron who thought they could use the law to suppress speech they don't like.
direwolf20 53 minutes ago||
I heard The Onion still does this
throwawa1 3 hours ago||
I'm a deflock user - I'm a libertarian. These cameras are a huge privacy violation, its amazing how fast Flock has grown ubiquitous. There is a strong Fourth Amendment argument against Flock, they have a generous interpretation of the constitution that your car has no rights and neither does your license plate therefore you have no privacy while on the road.

I've also been on the receiving end of secret Federal subpoenas for private user information at a YC backed startup. They include gag orders and management does not question the orders - they simply comply. It happens more often than you think.

However you feel about the current administration, imagine this power in the hands of the other.

Flock isn't American in any sense of the word. We should work in our communities, through legal, procedural, and civil means to eliminate these terrible, terrible cameras. The cost is much worse than the benefits on offer.

alphazard 6 hours ago||
This statement essentially boils down to "The only right way to fight me is in an environment where I expect to win"

That's how you know the DeFlock strategy is effective. They aren't playing the game that the CEO wants to play, they are playing the actual game. The actual game is minimizing the impact of cameras that are now everywhere.

Some individuals may take it upon themselves to vandalize the cameras, which can't be planned via conspiracy (that would be illegal), but those radical individuals can be "set up for success" through information. This strategy of creating an environment where effective vandalism is easy, is also part of the actual game.

sjs382 6 hours ago|
Flock is a terrorist organization.
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