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Posted by giuliomagnifico 15 hours ago

A new bill in New York would require disclaimers on AI-generated news content(www.niemanlab.org)
495 points | 208 commentspage 3
talkingtab 9 hours ago|
I'm beginning to suspect HN also needs such a bill. Maybe it is not AI content, but so many prominent posts on HN feel like advertising. Perhaps that is the good thing about AI is that it decreases the trust level. Or is that really a good thing?

[Edit: spelling sigh]

ddtaylor 14 hours ago||
Oregon kind of already has this they just don't enforce their laws.
mothballed 12 hours ago|
Oregon and New York both are still trying to work their way up the 'rule of law' pyramid past the base level of stopping fetnanyl and meth heads from robbing convenience stores and parked cars. Every moment spent on enforcing AI disclaimers instead is an affront to the populace.
ddtaylor 6 hours ago||
I'm well aware. I left Oregon 3 weeks ago and live in DC. Junkies spit on your wife and children while the police watch and say "not enough spit landed" and refuse to arrest anyone. When your property is stolen they will look at you like you're crazy for wanting it investigated or recovered. It has a tracker in it and the device says it's in that pile of stolen stuff near those tweakers. Good riddance Oregon!
Der_Einzige 5 hours ago||
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Oregonians have more personal freedom than almost any other state. Ron Wyden is by far the best sitting senator. It's a remarkably pro-gun state for being so left wing. Just use your tech bro money and live in a suburb. Cheapest weed in America. legalish shrooms. It's harder here than almost anywhere else for cops to fk your life up. Good.

Also it's objectively very low on violent crime, and the problems you talk about are in every PNW city, i.e. SF, Portland, Vancouver (WA), Vancouver (BC), Seattle. They're also the places where all the innovation, including AI (despite the non SF cities hatred for it), is happening.

ddtaylor 2 hours ago||
That personal freedom comes at a cost to the safety of your family.

Property crime rates skyrocketed.

Most stores have to have locked port access.

Go walk around Salem or Portland and access some public places. It's not safe to do so and anyone can verify that in seconds.

I have actually a much better understanding now in DC of how people can actually be compassionate. What Oregon is doing is not compassion, it's actively causing harm and destroying thirty thousand lives as we speak right now and climbing. Those are real people dying on your sidewalks in front of you. Someone else's daughter or son.

The environment has been distorted and the problem is bigger now than the appetite for compassion.

I hope you stay safe.

cmiles8 13 hours ago||
This is a good idea. Although most AI written content is also stroll pretty obvious. It consistently has a certain feel that just seems off.
sidrag22 12 hours ago||
Maybe for articles... and people who seem to think copy pasting a basic gpt response to generate a linkedin lunatic style post is passing anyone familiar with AI generated responses sniff tests...

But i wouldn't be surprised to see a massive % of comments that I don't instantly attribute to AI, actually being AI. RP prompts are just so powerful, and even my local mediocore model coulda wrote 100 comments in the time its taking me to write this one.

all humans are pattern seeking to a fault, the amount of people even in this community that will not consider something AI generated just because it doesnt have emdashes or emojis is probably pretty high.

chrisjj 11 hours ago||
> Although most AI written content is also stroll pretty obvious. It consistently has a certain feel that just seems off.

I think you're saying "AI" written content having a certain feel that just seems off is obviously "AI" written content.

Yes. But you've know way of knowing that's most. There could be 10x more that we don't detect.

TuringNYC 12 hours ago||
What happens if I use linear regression on a chart? Where does one draw the line on "AI"?
cardanome 11 hours ago|
Obviously people mean LLMs these days when talking about AI. Don't be obtuse.
asah 14 hours ago||
We've seen this movie - see California prop 65 warnings on literally every building.

It also doesn't work to penalize fraudulent warnings - they simply include a harmless bit of AI to remain in compliance.

kevin_thibedeau 8 hours ago||
The smell of Harbor Freight stores from before prop 65 compared to now indicates that it did work.
NitpickLawyer 14 hours ago||
> It also doesn't work to penalize fraudulent warnings

How would you classify fraudulent warnings? "Hey chatgpt, does this text look good to you? LGTM. Ship it".

jaredklewis 8 hours ago||
This is so dumb. Name literally any problem caused by AI generated content (there are dozens to choose from) and I will explain why this law will make absolutely no impact on that issue.

Now articles from organizations with legitimate journalists and fact checkers like the NYT, WSJ, or the economist will need an “AI generated” badge because they used an AI assistant and they have risk adverse legal departments. This will be gleefully pointed out by every brain dead Twitter conspiracy theorist, Breitbart columnist, 911 truther substack writer, and Russian spam bot as they happily spew unbadged drivel out into the world. Thanks so much New York!

AI doesn’t make bad news content. Complete disregard for objective reality does. I’ll take an ai assisted human that actually cares about truth over an unassisted partisan hooligan every time.

If this is the best our legislatures can come up with we are so utterly fucked…

ericzawo 7 hours ago||
Good.
nh43215rgb 14 hours ago||
Federal level would be the best, but this is a start.
kgwxd 11 hours ago|
AI Generated or News? You can't have both.
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