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Posted by cdrnsf 1 day ago

I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams(kirkville.com)
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mrcwinn 23 hours ago|
I stopped using it about a year ago and I’m so much better for it. It was shocking that Apple would deliver a feed filled with so much tabloid trash and gross ads about plastic surgery and weight loss. It’s really a gross product.
micromacrofoot 23 hours ago||
Probably simpler to assume all ads are scams and work back from there
wazoox 23 hours ago||
But these are just the same ads as on Google and everywhere else. Almost all internet ads are scam nowadays.
Y-bar 23 hours ago|
Doesn't make it any better.
bearjaws 1 day ago||
Mark my words, Apple is going to go full enshittification in the next 5 years because they've squeezed every last drop out of hardware pricing.

Especially with the failed Apple Intelligence that they will now have to pay their way out of.

isoprophlex 23 hours ago||
Then what do i move to? No linux laptop feels as good to touch as the aluminum macbooks, and in terms of phones it can't get any worse than the ads-and-trackers shitshow that is android...
76SlashDolphin 21 hours ago|||
Not only that but it's also quite difficult to find a laptop with an ANSI keyboard in an ISO country. My choices are basically an overpriced new Macbook (MacOS is the main con here), an overpriced new Thinkpad (brand new ones are horrible value since it tanks just a year after purchase), a Clevo (much worse build quality and questionable Linux support), or a Framework (worse build quality and mediocre battery life). As much as I hate MacOS, my M1 Macbook is still better at just being a light machine I can take anywhere and be working with immediately, while still lasting over an entire workday regardless of what I do. I really wish that Lenovo would fix their X9 Gen1 Linux support as those laptops are basically what I'd run if I could have proper support.
timpera 23 hours ago||||
I know that Windows 11 doesn't get a ton of love on HN, but I have successfully replaced my M1 MacBook Air with a Surface Laptop 7. The build quality is great, and I even think that the Surface's haptic trackpad is superior. However, I don't think anything on the market beats the Macbook's speaker quality.
vee-kay 23 hours ago||
Just put Linux on that Microsoft laptop, LOL. Problem solved and it will work great.
black_puppydog 23 hours ago||||
my goodness we lived with plastic thinkpads for decades and many of us still happily do. this fetish for "premium" hardware to be replaced every two years by the newest hottest thing (if that's not you: great, the planet thanks you) is just plain weird from the outside.
StilesCrisis 23 hours ago|||
"We" didn't do anything. Nobody is replacing their MacBooks every two years; those machines are tanks and are profoundly overspecced for most users' needs.
AlexandrB 23 hours ago||
My last MacBook lasted me from 2015-2025. It's still running actually, just getting slow.
bdangubic 23 hours ago||
you just gotta know when to stop updating OS and macbooks will last a loooong time
timpera 23 hours ago||||
I love my plastic ThinkPad, but it's also nice to use good-feeling hardware with a good haptic trackpad. It doesn't need to be replaced every two years. To each their own!
iso1631 23 hours ago|||
I don't know about you but I really don't want my laptop to be the hottest thing, it sits on my lap.

My thinkpad is from 2017, but I bought it in 2022, it's still working fine - I upgraded the memory to 32G (£70) and I've replaced the battery twice (once when I bought it, once a couple of months ago). When I replace it it will likely be because of hardware failure (droppping it etc).

vee-kay 23 hours ago||||
Get any gaming laptop or corporate grade laptop.

They'll look good, work well (from hardware perspective), and you can replace their built-in Windows OS with the Linux flavor/edition of your choice.

By the way, if ultraportable is your idea of laptop nirvana, you can try... Samsung made awesome AI-powered laptops (the Samsung Galaxy Book5 and Book6), I got the Book5 few months back for my friend's son. It is sleek, lightweight and powerful.

Here is the TG review/verdict: https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/laptops/samsung-galaxy-b...

TheDong 52 minutes ago|||
> you can replace their built-in Windows OS with the Linux flavor/edition of your choice.

From the arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Samsung

> Samsung Book5 - Internal Speakers not working on linux

Also, it caps out at 32GiB of ram, I feel like these days that's pretty low for anyone who uses javascript heavy webpages. Like, my firefox on linux is currently using 42GiB of memory, and that's with under 200 tabs open, and then when I build my nixos config, that usually takes another 10-20GiB of memory

einr 15 hours ago|||
Get any gaming laptop

Don't get any gaming laptop. Some of them are truly bottom of the barrel slop and it really matters that you do your research. (See, for instance, NuclearNotebook reviews on YouTube)

vee-kay 15 hours ago||
Maybe in current era of skyrocketing prices of memory & storage components (due to mindboggling demand by AI-driven tech industry), I would agree that budget gaming laptops are not worth the value.

But for decades, I have found that gaming laptops (decent brands and popular models) gave best bang for buck, especially with AMD hardware. My 12+ years old Lenovo gaming laptop is still going strong, and my 15+ years old Sony Viao netbook is also doing well (with SATA SSD and RAM upgrades few years ago).

But yeah, read/check up on the reviews (from reputed reviewers) before splurging for an expensive laptop.

One nifty trick to identify VFM(value for money) laptops is to check Amazon site/app for "Smartchoice" laptops. It is a special keyword that Amazon adds to listings of popular laptops that are VFM (best deals) and having good reviews.

q3k 20 hours ago||||
I would recommend fighting the 'oh it needs to FEEL premium' feeling. It doesn't, you're just spoile by companies who know exactly how to sell you crap specially designed to just feel nice. You're being played like a fiddle by marketing departments.
einr 15 hours ago||||
MacBooks are nice but: priorities. If the choice is between avoiding selling out your brain to adtech, tracking and AI slop baked into the OS or having something that feels good to touch then bring me the e-waste bin and let me fish out some creaky plastic garbage with a 768p TN panel that I can slap Debian on. I care about nice hardware, but I don't care that much.
ndriscoll 13 hours ago||
It doesn't even feel good. My recollection (having used a Macbook for work for a few years) is that they have aluminium shells with sharp edges that would irritate my wrists. That never happens with a soft plastic shell like a Thinkpad.
stavros 23 hours ago|||
Vote with your wallet and buy an Android phone without ads and trackers? What is this FUD?
tonyedgecombe 23 hours ago|||
Buy a phone from an ad supported company to get away from ads?
Gracana 23 hours ago|||
A phone is a poor replacement for a laptop.
stavros 18 hours ago||
The GP said phones.
ragazzina 23 hours ago||
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anovikov 19 hours ago||
All ads are scams. That's life. Only children and the elderly click on them anyway, and they are optimised to be clicked on by those since otherwise it just doesn't work at all.

More to that - many of the ads today aren't even scams. They merely exist as a deliberate source of annoyance to compel the person to pay for an ad-free premium version, like 90s era "nag screens" on shareware.

Times when ads could give a legit business any positive conversion, are long gone.

deafpolygon 23 hours ago||
All ads are scams.
oriettaxx 23 hours ago||
what about the #1 result in any research in Apple store

100% shit

whalesalad 19 hours ago||
this is the enshittification of the world. players like taboola.com are responsible for this.

have u ever been to truth social? it's the most user-hostile experience since the days of limewire and bonzai buddy - https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump

kirkmc 22 hours ago|
Hi, I'm the person who wrote this article, and I thank whoever posted it here. One comment I'm seeing below is: all ads are scams.

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Ads are capitalist tools to get you to buy things, but in most cases, you get the thing you buy. I'm into photography, books, and music, for example, and the ads I see for cameras aren't scams, nor are ads for books or records. Some of them may attempt to to manipulate you to part with your money, but this sort of scam is different.

One problem with Apple News on the iPad or Mac is the size of the ads. Yes, I notice them and generally scroll past them, but they are huge and obtrusive. I've been noticing these obvious AI ads for a couple of months; especially the one with the mug or the totebags. But they have become endemic recently.

Someone I know said that he assumes all ads on Instagram are scams. I don't use IG, but I do use Facebook to keep up with local groups. There was a period where there were tons of those "going out of business ads," and I reported many of them. But I'd say about half the ads I see now are brands I know. Presumably, since IG uses the same algorithm and personal data, my experience there would be the same.

I think the problem with Apple News is that it's not widely used, and advertisers don't see it as a good place to spend their money. Since Apple started using Taboola, it's pure enshittification.

It's worth noting that in Apple's earnings call last year, they said that their profit margin on services was 78%. While Apple News probably doesn't account for much in that number, it seems like much of the company, as far as services are concerned, is aiming for cash over quality.

PaulHoule 21 hours ago|
I'd agree that ads can be useful for some things. However many major online platforms are flooded with scams to the extent that ads for anything that aren't obvious scams are suspect.

Also there is the converse proposition that: "all clicks are click fraud", that is, many web sites try to trick you into clicking on ads by making pop-ups that are hard to close, by making the layout shift so you click on an ad when you were trying to click a link, etc.

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