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Posted by todsacerdoti 20 hours ago

New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes(www.marginalia.nu)
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OutOfHere 18 hours ago|
The fear is that AI-generated comments will collectively promote an agenda, often a political or exploitative agenda, on a scale that humans can't match or hope to counter.

What could help is a careful clique hunting algorithm to accurately identify and delete the entire clique.

5o1ecist 18 hours ago|
Paid actors, regular people and primitive bots are already doing so plentifully and successfully.

Of course, all of the above can be replaced by AI, but it would not significantly alter the status quo.

baxuz 19 hours ago||
I have "—" bound to AltGR/right option + "-" for a decade now and I don't intend to stop using it.

https://practicaltypography.com/hyphens-and-dashes.html

I will not allow my good practices to get co-opted as AI "smoke tests".

bediger4000 20 hours ago||
This is pretty damning. It would be interesting to see if new accounts collect karma at any rate whatsoever.
loeg 19 hours ago||
Karma aside, flooding the comments with a chosen narrative via army of bots seems like it's already happening. I suppose the bots can also do voting rings, but they don't necessarily need to.
squeefers 19 hours ago||
> Karma aside, flooding the comments with a chosen narrative via army of bots seems like it's already happening.

again with the conspiracy theories

mikkupikku 16 hours ago|||
People do conspire you know.
loeg 19 hours ago||||
> created: 83 days ago
marcher 19 hours ago||
I dunno, I agree. It sounds conspiratorial.

But who knows, maybe even 17 year old accounts are being hijacked by AI now too.

5o1ecist 18 hours ago|||
> again with the conspiracy theories

Yeah, right? Not one ever actually turned out to be true!

That conspiracy about billionaires, who supposedly own all of western media, having deliberately created an environment in which anyone who expresses even the remote idea of a conspiracy, gets discreditted, is also not true!

None of them are true!

Not. A. Single. One.

*noms cheese pizza*

embedding-shape 19 hours ago|||
Would be interesting to see "fastest growing accounts in last N months" or something similar. I'm guessing the ones that are actually humans would be closer to the top than the bottom, but maybe HN users aren't better than the average person to detect AI or not.
co_king_6 16 hours ago||
I did on my old account, but dang just banned it because I said my older accounts got banned for opposing AI.
dang 7 hours ago||
That's not why we'd ban someone.
tristor 13 hours ago||
Weirdly, I learned that it was important to use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation due to getting repeatedly dunked on in IRC long before the dawn of LLMs. I have no intent of changing, and people thought I was an "old" when I was younger because I texted with correct language, I'm sure people suspect I'm an LLM now. I don't care, and I don't try to guess for other comments either, I care if the content is relevant, accurate, and useful or interesting.
tonymet 13 hours ago||
I won't support this rampant emdashophobia. The internet deserves better typography.

So much so that I've started a Wikipedia project to replace the dashes and other abysmal characters with proper typography.

All of my devices replace hyphens with emdashes, ascii typography with glorious unicode, etc.

nubg 17 hours ago||
Check my history, I get downvoted to hell everytime I truthfully point out AI slop.
WhereIsTheTruth 14 hours ago||
Not everyone speaks English natively—most have relied on Google Translate in the past, and now they turn to AI tools. There's nothing wrong with that, provided they're using these tools to express their own thoughts rather than for spam or botting.

^ And that's what i just did

mm0lqf 19 hours ago||
doesn't really mean anything, Mac randomly autocorrects dashes to em-dashes (caused me a world of pain once when it did that in a GUID in a config file)
marginalia_nu 19 hours ago|
Are you saying new accounts are 10x more likely to be using macs? That would be quite a thesis.
adamtaylor_13 15 hours ago|
AI has taken this from me—I will never forgive.

But seriously, I loved the em-dash and now every time I use it (which is too often) I have to wonder if my words will immediately be written off.

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