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Posted by Garbage 2 days ago

MacBook Air with M5(www.apple.com)
419 points | 508 commentspage 3
MantisShrimp90 2 days ago|
I refuse to buy macbooks/apple products and advise my people to do the same.

I make it clear it's not about specs, it's not about UI, its about the fact that apple makes the world actively worse so they can sell you a better alternative.

You cant have iMessage anywhere else because they don't want you to, you are locked into apple stores because they refuse competition, you cant repair your own device because they get that money back in repair fees.

Its not about the operating system or the specs, I feel investing in Linux is the best way to create a more sustainable future for me and the ones I love and changing that take will require systemic changes, not these spec bumps and UI overhauls people fixate on.

std_move 2 days ago||
I would normally strongly agree, I don't like Apple as a company - for example the Apple store and Patreon 30 % tax https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46801419 Their policies overall.

However there is no comparable laptop hardware in the non-Apple world. Even if I wanted to pay double, there is no usable fanless high-quality quick laptop. Very sadly. The Air is just too good for the money and the competition too bloody incompetent and bad.

madeofpalk 2 days ago|||
> you are locked into apple stores because they refuse competition

I don't follow this one. You can buy Apple hardware from other retailers. You can download software, out of the box, from places other than the Mac App Store.

myHNAccount123 2 days ago|||
> I make it clear it's not about specs, it's not about UI, its about the fact that apple makes the world actively worse so they can sell you a better alternative.

I like the UI. What do you think they making worse?

a456463 1 day ago|||
I 100% agree. Most of the things that people say about lacking in non-macs, are eh. There are so many non-apple options that don't contribute to e-waste. Everything Apple can be dead at Apple's whims and it is ewaste.
vertigo-1 2 days ago||
what are you poor? If you need to repair something its probably junked anyway, I used to work at geeksquad. Most common "repairs" people were bringing laptops in for were liquid spills. Take a quick hike back to the computer section.
ismailmaj 2 days ago||
I bought the M4 air given that the consensus was also that it was the best value for 1k, but I ended up returning it and went for pro base model for a few reasons (still valid for M5 AFAIK from a bit of research):

- pro motion (120hz screen).

- better display brightness which is important when there is a bright sun outside.

- 1 more USB-C port and HDMI port (no dongle hell).

- 20% more battery life.

- This is more personal, but 13" is too small and 15" is too big, so 14" MBP worked best for me (~25 HFOV with a stand + KBM).

It's hard to justify saving 400 bucks given the gap between the models, but the decision is closer since the air has 16GB memory by default since M4 AFAIK.

teliskr 2 days ago||
I've been using Macbook Pros for a long time. I usually spend 3-4k on them. I recently purchased an 14" Asus ZenBook for $1300 and loaded Omarchy Linux on it. I wanted to have something less expensive and lightweight for traveling. I really like it a lot! I notice that it is a little slower than my Macbook Pro, but the performance completely acceptable for most things.
mixtureoftakes 2 days ago|
laptops seem kinda solved now? for every cpu vendor and every os theres now a great option that just, works, so everyone can just use what they like and not be at a disadvantage due to not knowing the latest developements in the space, or due to habitual preference. Good type of boring
jmyeet 2 days ago||
What I find interesting is how over a long period Apple had to basically reverse everything Johnny Ive was probably responsible for before he left and how we got back to where we were 10-15 years ago in many ways.

Remember how cool MagSafe was? Tripping over a cable no longer meant smashing your laptop. In the late 2000s, this was amazing. Then they made the laptops thinner so we got MagSafe 2. Annoying if you had chargers but whatever. And then... gone.

Macbook Air? The 2008 version I don't count. It's a weird and bad product. But the 2010/2011 products were rock solid and nobody could compete with Apple's value proposition for the hardware. Nobody. And they continued to be amazing but suffered from a screen that didn't get an upgrade from 2011 (IIRC). Where was the retina display? It was such an obvious upgrade.

But then Apple killed it for the 12" Macbook, which was a horrible product. Too many compromises. A single port. Ugh. That was Johnny Ive's baby.

Oh and let's not forget the whole butterly keyboard debacle, all for an estimated 0.5mm decrease in thickness. It failed because it got dust in it. It was expensive to replace. It was just a terrible design decision.

Oh and the Touch Bar? Please.

It was clear that Apple just wanted to increase the ASP of hheir laptops. So getting a good laptop for $1000 was no longer on the cards. Instead we were forced into the 13" Macbook Pro at the better part of $2000.

And here we are in 2026. MagSafe is back (has been for a few years obviously). The butterfly keyboard got ditched (again, some years ago). And they of course killed in the 12" Macbook and brought back to Macbook Air (again, some years ago).

But my point is that in many ways the 2026 Macbook air looks a lot like the 2010-2015 Macbook Air. Updated specs of course but it sits in that same segment of being "good enough" for most people and being excellent value.

One simply cannot overstate the importance of being able to walk into an Apple Store and just buying one. For me, this alone kills buying almost anything else. Even getting a charger for non-Apple laptops could be nontrivial. It's less of an issue now with USB-C charging but a lot of higher end Windows laptops can't draw enough power so still have their own chargers.

I like 16GB/512GB as the new baseline. Given what AI has done to RAM and SSD pricing, a slight price bump to $1099 seems perfectly acceptable to me.

soared 2 days ago|
What is the importance of going to a store and buying one? If you live in any major metro you can just go to any big box retailer, or a microcenter if you have one, and buy any other brand’s laptop.
adolph 2 days ago||

  The difference is in the number of GPU cores. One chip has an 8-core GPU, while the other has a 10-core GPU.
I'm wondering why they would have a 2 GPU core option. Maybe the 6 GPU one is binned since it is only available with 16G RAM? But no, the 10 GPU core is also needed for any storage increase....
firemelt 2 days ago||
I should top up my m3 ram damn I really regret it, cant even open android studio and emulator in will be on yellow zone
a456463 1 day ago|
This is why people generally prefer Lenovos and Frameworks. You can upgrade when you need to and don't have to get a whole new laptop. Despite all what Apple claims as environmentally friendly, they are not. They are pushing more products that will be paperweight when apple deems them to be.
nodesocket 2 days ago||
I have a MacBook Pro M1 Max and trying to decide if upgrading to the new Air makes sense.
desireco42 2 days ago||
The only thing that can spoil this laptop is if it is getting hot... otherwise on paper and probably in reality is excellent machine.

As a developer, I don't need pro, it is more expensive, heavier, bulkier, hotter.

dzhiurgis 2 days ago|
Needs 64GB ram so I can update from my 16" M1 32GB (whopping 5 years now). Higher resolution screen would be nice too. Otherwise I'll keep extending warranty on current one.
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