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Posted by billybuckwheat 3 days ago

Wired headphone sales are exploding(www.bbc.com)
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prodigycorp 15 hours ago|
Lots of good theories here, but none saying "TikTok", which I think is the answer.

TikTok is a big reason wired headphones are popular. AirPod microphone quality is spotty and improving the quality is non-deterministic. With wired earpods, people put the mic next to their mouth and get above-average audio quality.

Like the article says, wired headphones have also become a fashion statement akin to vinyl culture.

pimlottc 5 hours ago||
Agree with the fashion. Big clunky headphones can be part of a signature style. No doubt anime and video game characters have had an influence here.

They also project a clear message of “don’t bother me” when worn in public.

mft_ 12 hours ago|||
I dunno; IME many people who could barely be called a ‘creator’ seem to invest in a standalone microphone already, and many of these (the portable ones anyway) aren’t wired.
procaryote 13 hours ago||
This is why I use wired for longer calls or video conferences. I've tried so many wireless in-ear things and all of them are more sensitive to surrounding noise and I have to repeat myself more due to dropouts or spotty quality.

It's just much harder to get good sound quality when the mikes are by your ear rather than on a wire near your mouth

Not to mention that it completely removes the risk of running low on headphone battery mid-call

rock_artist 11 hours ago||
Audio engineer originally and a current audio software.

In the pro audio, wireless was never a thing with an exception of live shows where you’d might want to be free on stage but avoid stage monitors.

Notice that while Apple made everyone ditch the lovely 3.5”, on the MacBook Pros they’ve actually kept it and *improved* it.

As this is HN, I’ll focus on technical aspects I didn’t notice in the article.

- Active Noise reduction

While the article suggested the battery free magic of analog headsets. Flights are where the active noise reduction headsets shines. Active cancellation isn’t needed for studio environment but on the go it can certainly make your listening more pleasant.

- Hybrid devices There are several manufacturers with classical headset designs that also includes wired support with all modern features. This is a good balance in my opinion for benefiting from both worlds.

- Latency

Especially Bluetooth, our current consumer wireless is buffered and this latency is too much for creating music. Products such as GarageBand, Logic or FL Studio won’t be that useful for tracking with Bluetooth.

- Quality

Indeed, analog 3.5” audio is uncompressed vs Bluetooth. But it doesn’t mean the audio is superior for listening just because of that transition. Our modern devices are still mostly digital those days so there is DAC that takes those bits and converts them to analog (most of it today is done well as those chips are common) and the other step is the analog amplification. Audiophiles usually invest a lot in the headphones amplifier. Most android devices in the past were mediocre in that sense.

So while wired is a trend, the “dongle” of USB-C to convert the audio is still a major part of the quality we end with.

- Sharing is caring (my personal take)

The biggest frustration I feel with Bluetooth is that it’s now nearly impossible to use multiple headphones for listening. In the old days, you had a simple splitter and as long as both headsets were the same impedance, you can even have 4 people listening to the same content easily.

With Bluetooth, only Apple addresses this in a very limited manner with a lock in to specific models and up to 2 devices and no video calls or live audio support.

OJFord 10 hours ago||
Active noise reduction isn't unique to wired models any more though - in fact I find it better on the wireless earphones I use now than my old similar wired model (same brand) because the microphones are right there in the ear, not bashed around or muffled by clothing halfway down the cable.
rahimnathwani 7 hours ago|||
"With Bluetooth, only Apple addresses this in a very limited manner with a lock in to specific models and up to 2 devices and no video calls or live audio support."

The Bose mobile app also allows me to use two pairs of Bose headphones on a single device, but still only 2 devices and AFAICT only for media consumption.

user_7832 5 hours ago||
Tangential - The funny thing is, broadcasting Bluetooth to multiple devices isn't a new thing at all. Back in 2017, Motorola did it on their phone [1]. No extra hardware afaik, it was purely a software solution.

Of course, the company disappeared, and now in 2026, we have lesser tech than we had back in 2017.

If you're wondering "Well, how did a company disappear?!", feel free to take the most corpo/capitalist-dystopian guess.

If you guessed "They got bought out by Google - presumably for IP - with the founders joining Big G, and Google of course promptly shelved it and did absolutely diddly squat with it", congratulations, you win... frustration and disappointment, I suppose!

1 - https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/the-most-exciting-th...

tuzemec 4 hours ago|||
I own a pair of Focal Bathys - amazing sound, bluetooth connectivity, noise canceling, AND usb-c with DAC. I'm very happy with them.
pimlottc 5 hours ago||
What have Apple done to improve the audio jack on MacBook Pro
rock_artist 3 hours ago||
https://support.apple.com/en-us/108351

Not "audiophiles" standard though from a sound engineer pov, it is very decent (especially compared to my other laptops)

Aardwolf 10 hours ago||
"The dangling cables of wired headphones are a must-have fashion accessory in 2026"

Gee, is that the kind of stuff that makes people want this, rather than actual usefulness related reasons?

I want it because I don't want yet another thing to have to charge, and because I'd want to be able to throw some cheap headphones in my backpack that I can use the one time in a month that I actually need them in combination with a phone (which of course isn't possible anymore today)

Also, why are ANC headphones today worse for gaming than in the year 2018 when they supported aptx that had less lag? Technology is going backwards?

yallpendantools 14 hours ago||
Actually, a week ahead of the BBC, my sister informed me wired headphones are making a comeback. With a smug grin I told her, "Comeback? It never left my side."

I've had to ally myself with a brand I've once sworn off just to get a flagship model Android with a headphone jack. Killing Reader is a greedy betrayal (they were pushing us onto Plus, the whole social web thing) but removing headphone jacks from Pixels is a cowardly betrayal! Eyeing you too there, Samsung. You and Google both have made it extremely difficult to maintain a modicum of principle in today's consumer landscape! You made me justify my purchase with a utilitarian "Better the jacked devil than the blue-toothed one".

(And before you ask, I only generally buy flagships because I upgrade my phone like, every five years, and in my experience flagships are just more bang for buck. YMMV tho.)

Anyway, honestly, wired is not perfect. Wired and wireless each have their inconveniences it's just that I'm more willing to put up with the inconveniences of wired. Wired connections have known failure modes, something which I really value in tech. I have a Sony WH-1000XM3 which can work both as wired and wireless and I love it for that.

Long live wired connections! Here's to a future with cheaper flagship models with a headphone jack!

jhbadger 12 hours ago||
Maybe I am just old, but I have absolutely no idea what this passage is about -- why would people be fiddling with Bluetooth on a date and why would it cause them to forget their network?

>"Bluetooth does not work," Kravitz said in a recent interview, and it's not just headphones, but Bluetooth connections in general. "It's ruining important moments. Imagine the amount of times that you're with someone on a date, you're trying to set a vibe, and then you have to forget the network. On a date!"

antonkochubey 12 hours ago||
Picnic date with a Bluetooth speaker for some background music, perhaps? I often see that in parks/beaches/etc, and as long as volume is reasonable I don’t think anyone minds.
qilo 12 hours ago|||
I found this confusing as well. She probably meant to "Forget" the device when the Bluetooth pairing with the headphones is lost.
OJFord 10 hours ago|||
I followed the link through to the video interview; it's not a lot clearer, except that she's definitely talking about trying to play a song (and it not working, ruining/frustrating the moment). Follows with the example 'or you're in a car, you have to pull the car over. To play a song?! On a date!'
booleandilemma 11 hours ago|||
I've just been putting wired headphones on my date's ears. It makes it harder for her to run away too.
bongripper 10 hours ago||
The idea is that you're at home with the other person and want to listen to some music from a bluetooth speaker.
egorelik 4 hours ago||
Back when I still thought all headphones were basically the same, I was writing some music and I could not understand why the cello lines sounded so much louder than the violin lines at the same dynamic. It was only years later that I found out that mainstream headphones are tuned to boost the bass, which is supposedly the mainstream taste.

If your tastes in music are not mainstream (and mine definitely is not), mainstream headphones will ruin your music more than you realize - for years I just thought that was how recorded music is supposed to sound, and it wasn't very good. Trying a neutrally-tuned headphone can change your (musical) life. Unfortunately, very few wireless headphones are tuned that way.

Edit: Part of why I never looked into it sooner, I had heard so much about "audiophile snake oil" over the years, I thought that was all there was. That exists, but there plenty of headphones marketed to "audiophiles" that are legitimate.

omnimus 12 hours ago||
One segment I wish came back are bluetooth inear headphones wired together (untrue wireless, i guess).

There are some models but none really explore their possible advantages (battery, ux, single signal source).

I lost single wireless earpiece multiple times making the rest useless. This won't happen with wire. With wire its also so much easier and quicker to take them off they will just hang around your neck. There is reason why many workers in loud environments prefer earplugs wired together.

My impression is that apple hyped the airpods so well that people forgot about other possibilities. And when Google included cool headphones with cables people thought they have to cut them… that was when industry decided its dead segment.

elcapitan 12 hours ago|
This is very true. Especially for sport, they are just great. I always found wired headphones annoying when running, because I need to take care of the wire somehow. Wired-together bluetooth in-ears like the Bose SoundSport kind of fill that niche, as I don't need to worry about one of them falling out. Looks like they don't make them anymore.
omnimus 12 hours ago||
Yeah sport is main reason companies are making them.

I also have to say i haven't checked this for two years but there seem to be some new models now (under banner of neckband earbuds). So maybe there is something nicer now.

w4rh4wk5 5 hours ago||
Are there recommendations on USB-C to 3.5mm adapters, preferably ones with input and output? My biggest complain with Bluetooth headphones is the astonishingly bad quality when doing voice calls.
jhoho 4 hours ago||
As usual, the Apple design is a great baseline: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r...

It doesn't provide full volume output under Android, though.

Otherwise, the CS43131 DAC powers some great designs. I can't comment on their durability, though. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/j...

as367 5 hours ago||
See if Apple's USB-C to 3.5mm adapter works for you.
ysleepy 2 hours ago|||
The samsung one is usually easier. On non-apple devices the volume is very limited, especially in the EU version.
w4rh4wk5 4 hours ago|||
Thanks for pointing this one out.

I am hesitant to buy Apple accessories like these as I am having quality concerns. Specifically the macbook chargers I've encountered are far less rigid than Lenovo Thinkpad chargers (at least before they switched to USB-C). I never felt Apple did a particularly good job with cables and connectors when it comes to longevity.

healsdata 3 days ago||
My wired headphones never run out of battery. They also don't drop the connection if my pocket is at the wrong angle from my ears.
fhdkweig 22 hours ago||
All that, plus with wires, I can run the cable under my shirt and up through the neck hole. When someone starts to talk to me, I can just pop them out of my ears and let them dangle across my chest without having to hold them in my hands. I also don't have to worry about dropping them on the floor.
globular-toast 11 hours ago||
This was common for kids in the 00s. Having just one bud in while talking to someone was common. There was also this type that instead of having two equal length wires, one to each bud, was asymmetrical and you would wrap the longer wire around you neck so you could easily "unbud". Sony invented this, I think. In fact there were some pretty crazy designs before Apple made the simple but conspicuous earbuds popular again.
bigstrat2003 15 hours ago|||
All that and they cost a fraction of the price! Wireless headphones are a strictly inferior product to wired, and it astonishes me that Apple convinced anyone to buy them. They're a total rip off.
ahhhhnoooo 13 hours ago|||
I can leave my phone on the charger or propped up with a recipe on the counter while I cook and still get signal. Wired headphones cannot let me walk between rooms without picking up my phone.

Wireless headphones take up much less space. I can put them in my pocket trivially.

Wireless headphones can tell me where they are and if I've left them behind.

Wireless headphones don't have a piece of plastic that dangles on my neck, shoulders, and face. As someone with sensory issues, this is genuinely important.

I've never had to spend five minutes untangling the cords for my wireless headphones.

I've never accidentally snagged the cable on my wireless headphones, causing them to snap off.

I can put my phone in a waterproof case in my backpack and protect it while walking. I don't have to do cable management to route the wire.

It's fine to prefer the wired headphones. I fully endorse that for you. Maybe drop the hyperbole about how wired headphones are strictly better?

kelnos 12 hours ago||||
It's weird, because I absolutely agree in principle, but 90% of my headphone use is wireless now.

And I hate it: latency, glitches, randomly just deciding not to connect anymore, deciding to connect in the lower-quality headset mode when I want to listen to music, and refusing to switch to the high-quality mode, battery running out at inconvenient times, the cat knocking them off my nightstand and under the bed where I cant reach them. So many reasons to be annoyed by them!

But I hardly ever take out my wired headphones anymore, and I'm not sure why. Back when I got my first phone without a 3.5mm jack, I just kept a little USB-C adapter in the little pouch/case that held my wired IEMs, and it was fine. But at some point I bought a new phone, and there was a deal on cheap (or free?) wireless earbuds with it, and I really just stopped using wired headphones for the most part since then, even though the wireless ones really annoy me for so many reasons.

genthree 6 hours ago||
Similar story here, I love wired headphones but have to admit that, after being gifted my first set of AirPods, my actual use of any sort of personal speaker device went up like 20x or more. It’s exactly that factor of being able to get up and walk around without a thought that does it. That’s the reason I’ll often not put wired headphones on in the first place, but no such concern with wireless.

(I actually don’t like 3.5mm jacks as much as some people do, though, as my experience has been the ports get janky over time if they’re under any strain at all, which they will be on a mobile device and which is always a back-of-my-mind source of stress when using them, but quarter-inch jacks are awesome)

Shank 13 hours ago||||
For me, all of my wired headphones and earbuds have died the same way: audio cutting out or completely lost due to cable damage due to storage and use cycles. Wireless has completely fixed this for me.
wat10000 7 hours ago|||
Wireless is more comfortable. I don't have to deal with cables brushing against my ears or sitting on my neck.

Wireless can't get caught on doorknobs or other protrusions.

I don't have to plug them in. I put them in my ears and they work.

They automatically work with multiple devices. I put them in and make a phone call. I put them in and take a video meeting on my computer.

There certainly are advantages to wired headphones and more power to you if you prefer those tradeoffs. But it's bizarre to call wireless "strictly inferior." It should not be difficult to find at least one thing about them that someone might find to be superior.

PaulHoule 3 days ago|||
I bought two pairs of premium wireless headphones about 10 years ago. These failed gradually, I patched them up with tape and kept them going. One of them had the Bluetooth electronics fail but still works wired, the electronics are fine on the other one but physically it is a jumbled mess that I can't really tape together anymore but it kinda sits on my head.

I went looking for the state of the art in headphones and bought (1) a set of AirPod Pros and (2) a recent Sony headset.

My feelings about the AirPods are terribly mixed.

10 years ago I think the best reason to spend $250 instead of $25 on a set of Bluetooth headphones was that the $250 device would pair properly with multiple devices whereas it might take you 15 minutes of screwing around to unpair and repair the $25 headphones every time you need them. But hey they are so cheap maybe you can pack one for each device you have and not worry about it.

Today it is the other way around, somehow $25 headphones "just work" with Windows, Mac, iOS, Android, Steam Deck, whatever. After I disabled the microphone and switched to the microphone on my camera, the AirPods got reliable with Windows. Inside Apple's ecosystem it tries really hard and almost works, yet the $25 headphones "just work" and don't seem to be trying so hard. I don't get messages warning me that somebody else's $25 headphones are following me around but my iPhone tells me that about my AirPods all the time but I think it is a KPI for somebody in Cupertino that I see the word "AirPods" as much as possible.

Now the sound quality of the AirPods is just great, I'll grant that, but I'm not going to be one of those annoying youngsters who is as hard as hearing as the oldest oldsters because I have some genetic polymorphism that makes me produce copious amount of earwax that eject the AirPods from my ears if I move too much. My doc says one of these days my ears are going to plug up and I shouldn't get so excited about it.

seer 15 hours ago|||
I got myself a plastic welder - the thing that melts little pieces of metal to strengthen plastic joints - now I can keep old plastic things in shape almost indefinitely. Cost like 10 usd or so and has prolonged the life of all manner of things.

If you still want to make the old headphones work these welders are a godsend, and with some small amount of diy work of cleaning, sanding and buffing you can easily hide these welds.

I personally like to leave them though since they accent that something that was once broken is whole again, and that it has a long history!

rhinoceraptor 9 hours ago||||
For whatever reason, in my experience, the 1st gen Airpods Pro seem to pair much more easily to non-Apple devices than the 2nd gen. I have a 1st gen pair more or less dedicated to my Linux PC, and they auto-pair 99% of the time within a few seconds.
Obscurity4340 3 days ago|||
Have you ever tried bluetooth wearables like the Bose SoundWear? Off topic but they are awesome
simonmic 21 hours ago|||
Mine do. The phone's lightning connector socket has become "flaky" (from age, or lint..), and at this point I must hold the phone in hand rather than in pocket while walking, for uninterrupted playback.
procaryote 13 hours ago||
Headphone jacks.

Sony experia, Asus zenphone, Motorola Moto G, and a few others

They're rare nowadays, but they're inherently superior when it comes to audio just working

az09mugen 2 days ago||
Same here. And also unlike airpods, you can't easily lose one that you can't replace. Which also renders the one left useless because you can't pair it with another orphan, what a waste.
bpev 3 days ago|
Please let this mean that they'll start bringing back the headphone jacks to phones. usb-c is too unstable, and I prefer not having to deal with charging more devices and with pairing shenanigans when switching devices.
toast0 15 hours ago||
You can get phones with headphone jacks still. You have to shop carefully, because it eliminates a lot of options. My current phone is a moto g stylus 5g 2023... to get a headphone jack, snapdragon cpu, and reasonable cost, I had to also accept a stylus that I only use to fidget.

Probably need to start shopping again soon cause updates stop in June.

bigstrat2003 15 hours ago|||
The moto g stylus 2025 is reasonable. It has some bloatware you have to go through and disable, and it is a bit bigger than I'd like. But it's about the best you can do in today's market.
bpev 11 hours ago||||
At this point, I'm mostly just praying that the motorola + grapheneos collab will have a headphone jack. I probably won't purchase anything until I at least see what's cooking over there.

Right now, since I buy audio files anyways, I've mostly been relying on a tiny audio player that can also act as a Bluetooth receiver for my phone.

Suppafly 14 hours ago|||
Wired headphones are the top reason I've bought Moto phones the last two times.
cosmic_cheese 22 hours ago|||
It'll never happen but I'd love to see a new analog audio connector designed with portable audio and extreme durability in mind make a debut. The old 1.44mm connector is nice for its ubiquitous nature, but its internal footprint is large and it's prone to contact issues over time (I'm sure most of us have had a device/headphone pair where the jack had to be rotated into a "sweet spot".

I'm not well versed in the world of port design, but what comes to mind is a little shallow magnetic nub with a couple of contacts on it. Easy to clean, impossible to break by accidental torquing, not deep enough to get stuff stuck in it.

The cool thing is that whatever the new design is, making adapters for 1.44mm to the new thing is dirt cheap since it's still just an analog connection.

ansgri 16 hours ago||
What’s 1.44 mm connector in this context? Common sizes for headphones are 2.5, 3.5 and (lately) 4.4 mm
chaz6 9 hours ago|||
Since you mentioned 4.4mm, thought I would chime in and mention pentaconn (the trade name) which is a TRRRS connection (which does include a ground connection as well as L+/L-/R+/R-. I still do not understand the purpose of the ground connection in these plugs since there's nothing to ground on the other end.
ansgri 8 hours ago||
Isn’t it the only common variant of 4.4mm? Since portable balanced audio is audiophile-adjacent, no wonder it includes the common ground of dubious utility.
crote 10 hours ago|||
Don't forget the classic 6.35mm jack!
kefabean 12 hours ago|||
Totally agree, as an iPhone user it’s literally the only ‘innovation’ that would make me lust after a new device.
101008 22 hours ago|||
Please, it's the one thing I miss on my Pixel 10
itisit 2 days ago||
> usb-c is too unstable

Would you share more? I've never had an issue with a USB-C cable. Helps to buy well constructed ones with legit specs.

bpev 2 days ago|||
I'm talking about this specific context, rather than in general. I find that for usb-c earphones and small dongles/dacs, they disconnect more when I'm walking around with phone in pocket. They also tend to wear down with use much faster than normal aux cables. Usually, they last a few months for me before I start having issues.

And when usb-c phones disconnect just a little, usually the phone will pause the music completely and disconnect, whereas the aux headphones will just keep playing. So if the connection isn't perfect, the usb-c cable becomes unlistenable because I can't walk 20 steps without it pausing.

edit: I've tried many cables and dongles, so if you don't have this problem, it might be just that I move around more? Biggest problem for me is commutes and walking around.

zadikian 5 hours ago|||
Same issue with the lightning to 3.5 dongle. Plus the phone sometimes takes like 10s to recognize it.
leptons 22 hours ago|||
That problem might be considered a software problem, not a hardware or physical problem. The instant pausing of the music is the real problem. Software developers probably don't move around as much as you do, and I'd bet if they did, this problem would be fixed quickly with a simple timeout setting or something.
cmcaleer 15 hours ago|||
I gave up on USBC headphones because if your port becomes full of lint (say by being in your pocket all day), it doesn’t take much to disturb a USBC connection and cause it to go through the whole handshake all over again for a few seconds.

Compared to 3.5mm where the frustrations I remember were usually limited to sometimes getting a bit of a crackle or one of the audio channels dropping out and worst case scenario you just unplugged it and put it back in and it usually worked. With USBC you have to wait to see.

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