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Posted by WhyNotHugo 7 hours ago

404 Deno CEO not found(dbushell.com)
222 points | 160 commentspage 3
mattvr 6 hours ago||
Deno Deploy is actually an excellent product.

My choice ranking is Deno Deploy > Fly.io > AWS for new projects, depending on complexity and needs. They also have a new Deno sandbox feature which is great for running untrusted code, AI agents, etc.

The real question is can they adapt to customer feedback fast enough, focus priorities, adequately market & grow, make it profitable, etc. Bumpy road but definitely not doomed.

[0] https://deno.com/deploy

steve_adams_86 5 hours ago|
I was surprised by the tone about deploy in the blog post too. I think it's excellent. I use it for anything new that uses TypeScript.
ozten 4 hours ago||
For me Bun’s dramatic entrance and the a lack of any Deno response that reached my attention effectively evaporated any interest I would have in switching my runtime. I’m already set with my tooling and hosting.
jklmnopqrstuvw 2 hours ago||
I think the only real perk of Bun/Deno over Node is that they can run .ts directly and have better ES compatibility. I don’t need Deno’s permission system, but it’s on by default, so I went with Bun.
Raed667 5 hours ago||
My prediction for 2023 is 2 out 3 (so far)

> Despite the initial hype, Rome tools, Deno & Bun will be quasi abandoned as the ecosystem outpaces their release cycle and the benefits don’t merit the headache of migration.

https://blog.raed.dev/posts/predictions_2023

pier25 20 minutes ago||
Deno hasn't been abandoned though. The company still survives. These layoffs are probably to focus resources on the runtime and subhosting product.

Bun is in much better shape than it was in 2023 and its future is less uncertain today than it was back then.

morphology 3 hours ago|||
I defaulted to Biome for all greenfield projects a year ago, and at this point you would have to drag me kicking and screaming back to ESLint and Prettier. I also defaulted to Bun and still think Bun is leagues better than Node.js but I now have my doubts about its future after seeing the OpenCode devs consciously minimize their dependency on Bun for strategic reasons.
teg4n_ 5 hours ago||
Rome tools is now Biome and Biome is really good. The company didn't work out but the tool itself is better than ever.
ashwinnair99 4 hours ago||
Deno always felt like something built for the right reasons but at the wrong time. Good tech losing isn't new, it's just always a bit sad when it happens slowly.
Chyzwar 4 hours ago|
No, they made many wrong architecture decisions that made it fringe project rather than mainstream. You could glimpse on how things could played out by looking into bun.js adoption.
thinkingkong 5 hours ago||
It's easy to be critical in hindsight but honestly when Deno first came out it was pretty incredible. Even the whole idea about URL based imports makes lots of sense but it was incompatible with any of the existing toolchains that were wildly popular. At the same time, companies like Vercel launched a new kind of framework and leveraged that into a hosting business with I would say great success. They captured developers where they were at _today_, including acknowledging the demographics, the tools, the culture, etc.
skybrian 1 hour ago|
Compatibility aside, Url-based imports are a bad idea as soon as you go beyond writing your entire program in a single source file and want to keep imported versions of common dependencies in sync. It's nice for scripts, but a deno.json file is better.
nektro 3 hours ago||
i did not interpret this article as hate. this is very sad news and OP is being honest about the state of things and failings along the way. they even end with a plea that things turn around.
arikrahman 3 hours ago||
Anthropic's acquisition might prove for the better if their able to avoid the same layoff situation.
hedayet 4 hours ago|
> Idle speculation has led to baseless rumours of an OpenAI acquisition. I’m not convinced that makes sense but neither does the entire AI industry.

hmm, blog author doesn't know about Anthropic's Bun acquisition, and consequently shouldn't comment on "the entire AI industry"

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