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Posted by trocado 4 hours ago

Bets on US-Iran ceasefire show signs of insider knowledge, say experts(www.theguardian.com)
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mandeepj 3 hours ago|
Ceasefire alone? Seems like there was insider knowledge even on start of war bidding.
journal 3 hours ago||
Trump says something the other side will say is false in one hour. So make all the money before the other side responds and markets correct? What happens when Trump makes the wrong move? Will his family be in debt for eternity?
varispeed 3 hours ago||
When the entire US administration is compromised by Russia, why wouldn't they want to milk it.
petesergeant 4 hours ago||
I would be interested to know who shorted oil in the hours before the purported negotiations post on Truth Social, and who then went long on it in shortly after the price readjusted and before the Iranians denied these negotiations.
dylan604 3 hours ago||
As soon as the news hit that the Iranians are claiming they have not negotiated anything while Trump is claiming the supposed negotiations are why he's not bombing Iranian power infrastructure really made wonder who Trump is trying to fool. It reminds me of Musk's tweet about securing financing to go private. Comments like this are meant to move a needle.
spwa4 4 hours ago||
For most people, that's a plus of course.
CrzyLngPwd 4 hours ago||
Wasn't there a flurry of market activity moments before Trump announced discussions between Iran and the USA, but such discussions never happened, or as Trump said, happened with someone he didn't want to name to protect them, which meant they were clearly not a decision maker in Iran - all of which was denied by Iran.

What if everything Trump does and says is merely to manipulate markets?

b112 3 hours ago||
This is very weird.

Trump is the ultimate mercurial. At the drop of a hat, he'll change his mind on things. Predicting Trump is a ridiculous proposition, and I'm willing to be most would agree with that.

Even Trump doesn't know what Trump will do next!

Yet meanwhile, there are people using "insider knowledge" to make decisions? What insider knowledge!! There is none. It's all made up on a day to day basis.

exe34 4 hours ago||
It's pretty clear, the US only carries out war on weekends, while markets sleep.
standardUser 4 hours ago|
There's something funny about watching global markets react to Trump's every lazy lie as if Moses himself just passed down orders. Maybe funny is the wrong word. The kicker is that this isn't even Trump's war and he likely lacks the capacity to end it if he wanted to.
impure 3 hours ago||
People want to believe this war will end soon.
vkou 3 hours ago||
> The kicker is that this isn't even Trump's war

That's quite possible.

> and he likely lacks the capacity to end it if he wanted to.

Nah, he could end it any time he wants. Iran will stop bombing its neighbors in a week or so, and things will more or less return to the pre-war status quo.

He chooses to not end it, because the one thing that he cannot stand is losing face.

standardUser 3 hours ago|||
Iran will not stop harassing the region, and perhaps not even allow the strait to open, if Israel is still bombing them or fighting a proxy war in Lebanon. So Trump can pack up and head back to this side of the planet, having made our country a few trillion dollars poorer in the process, but the war doesn't ends until Iran and Israel decide it ends.
vkou 3 hours ago|||
> Iran will not stop harassing the region, and perhaps not even allow the strait to open, if Israel is still bombing them or fighting a proxy war in Lebanon.

If Israel is still bombing them? Certainly.

This will put incredible international pressure on Israel to stop. It's one thing when the US wrecks the world's economy, and it's hard to push back on. It's an entirely different thing when a country of 10 million people is wrecking the world's economy. International opinion has been turning against it for years, already.

I do think it's very unlikely to continue the war if the bombing stopped, and only the proxy war continued.

pjc50 2 hours ago||
Israel is basically immune to pressure from countries other than the US, and the US won't pressure them because of domestic politics.
XorNot 3 hours ago|||
People honestly forget that Iranians aren't stupid. Some of them are crazy, but not stupid. Iran has been doing things like saying you're safe in the Strait as long as you trade oil in Yuan, for example. They know exactly why they're doing that.

Now it's not very effective now, but if the US packs up and leaves they can keep doing it. "Trade in Yuan or we drone strike your ships" would lead to every company that operates there doing it provided it actually kept risk and insurance rates down.

2postsperday 2 hours ago|||
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