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Posted by adrianhon 1 day ago

Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?(www.newyorker.com)
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neonate 14 hours ago|
https://archive.ph/hOYMn
nafey 8 hours ago||
I hope ronan farrow doesn't mind his article being shared like this
stevenwoo 8 hours ago|||
It’s also available via public libraries in USA via Libby if your local library system pays for a subscription, so it’s a way to support the magazine indirectly, since your local taxes pays for your library. The downside for weekly is you have to read it that week, no archive access.
rhubarbtree 3 hours ago||
Which edition? I looked at April 6th and can’t see the article.
sph 5 hours ago||||
Truth > revenue
MagicMoonlight 5 hours ago||||
I’m not going to pay for another newspaper subscription just to read one article
vasco 4 hours ago|||
The information is more important than the wants of the writer, always.
calebm 7 hours ago||
This is pretty hilarious - when I asked ChatGPT to "summarize this article: https://archive.ph/hOYMn", it said it's about Jesus ("The article traces the development of early Christian Latin hymns, especially focusing on how themes about the Virgin Mary and Christ evolved from the 4th to later centuries..." (https://chatgpt.com/share/69d48476-9bf4-8327-8c19-709865a547...)
sph 4 hours ago|||
Sharing what an LLM has to say about a thing is like sharing what you dreamt of last night — no one really cares.
autonomousErwin 34 minutes ago||
unless you dreamt how to debug that problem no-one else can solve
flux3125 2 hours ago|||
Interesting. If you look at the sources it cited, there are a few links about "Sacred Songs and Solos" (likely from related/side content on the page), my guess is it didn't read the main article and instead anchored on those and hallucinated
bkummel 3 hours ago||
Without having read the article, reacting on the headline: no single person should be allowed to control our future. Democracy is a thing in large parts of the world, and we should try very hard to keep that functioning and even improve it.
afh1 1 hour ago||
The only part of the world where _democracy_ is a thing is Switzerland. Rest of the western world is utterly ruled by politicians, governments with ever more control over _their_ population's private life and money, and some who shout out "democracy", deluded they have any control over anything through voting lol.
PUSH_AX 2 hours ago||
People are voting with their wallets
xboxnolifes 2 hours ago||
Thats not democracy.
jstummbillig 1 hour ago||
It's also not not democracy. It has little to do with a form of government.
krackers 11 hours ago||
[1] is also good to read as a follow-up, and compare the personalities

https://harpers.org/archive/2026/03/childs-play-sam-kriss-ai...

rwmj 4 hours ago||
I read this a few days ago, excellent article and an absolutely insane story.
mplanchard 9 hours ago||
This was a great article, and absolutely savage in some of its characterizations.
slopinthebag 6 hours ago||
The fact that this reads as deranged fantasy and yet I can believe is 100% real is insane lol
swingboy 13 hours ago||
It's really interesting reading about how these folks view LLMs. Yeah, they're transformative, but I don't know that we're going to be eating ramen in a Neo-Tokyo street bar anytime soon. So much "A.G.I" mentioned in the article.
m4rtink 9 hours ago||
I find it interesting how a lot of cyberpunk does not really include AI or does not present it in transformative way. There is a lot of mind uploading, implants, corpo fun and overall technology permeating all aspects of life, but often AI itself does not actually play a big role.
Terr_ 8 hours ago|||
Counterexamples that come to mind are Neuromancer (AI driving the plot) and Blade Runner (AI antagonists.)

A compromise thesis might be that in cyberpunk media, AI is at never powerful or motivated to fundamentally reform the worldwide crapsack economic system. They don't abolish corporations, although they might take them over.

Of course, if there was a story about an AI taking over the world into a post-scarcity society, it probably wouldn't be filed under "cyberpunk" either...

hnbad 1 hour ago||
Rampant capitalism is kinda genre-defining for Cyberpunk so Cyberpunk without corporations wouldn't really be Cyberpunk. _The Matrix_ only qualifies as Cyberpunk because within the matrix the machines effectively control the capitalist power structures to exert their influence.

Abundance/scarcity isn't really about availability, it's more about access. You can have a cyberpunk story in a "post-scarcity" setting in the sense of availability (due to sci-fi tech) but you can't have it without unequal access to those resources.

keiferski 2 hours ago||||
AIs are in plenty of cyberpunk stories, but your comment did make me think that they are often rather stereotypically “alien entity characters” and not a kind of corporate technology / weapon that is controlled by a specific organization.

Which is a shame, as it seems to me that the overwhelming risk of AI is from the latter scenario, and not as a rogue individual entity.

ehnto 8 hours ago||||
It is a pretty core part of Cyberpunk the "franchise" though, both tabletop and more recent video game.

I think as well if you look closer, many cyberpunk worlds imply AI through robots, computers with personality etc.

helloplanets 5 hours ago||||
AI is one of the core parts of cyberpunk, through androids / humanoid robots. Blade Runner is completely built on the protagonist having to interact with rogue artificial intelligence.
satvikpendem 8 hours ago||||
I find that more realistic then, because it appears that's the trajectory we are going on with regards to AI, as a tool not a panacea.
mcat_god 3 hours ago||||
I assume it just becomes one of those things as ubiquitous as Wi-Fi
gilgoomesh 8 hours ago||||
I think you can look at Star Trek as a fairly grounded example of where current LLMs could go: the ship's computer is not autonomous in any way but it does accept fairly vague instructions and you can apparently vibe-code the holodeck.
rwmj 4 hours ago||||
Hyperion has a pretty well-developed view of AGI.
Trasmatta 9 hours ago|||
Deus Ex is an outlier, AI is a core part of that plot
staticman2 8 hours ago||
The first Cyberpunk book, Neuromancer, has a plot which revolves around A.I recruiting human agents to forward its plans...
0x3f 13 hours ago|||
It's because they're really good at the kind of busywork the average white collar job requires. Most people are out there writing documents and making presentations. Only when you use them for actual complexity does the shortfall become clear.
satvikpendem 8 hours ago|||
Well I'd hope they're transformative, they're using transformers after all. We just need to pay attention to them, that's all they need.
kfarr 6 hours ago||
Do they need all our attention?
red369 9 hours ago||
I'm going to write a silly comment here: For a moment I thought you wrote "... LLMs. Yeah, they're transformative, but I don't know that they're going to be eating ramen in a Neo-Tokyo street bar anytime soon."

I liked that mental image a lot! (I try to maintain being uncertain whether Deckard was a replicant)

locust101 2 hours ago||
It’s hard to know what’s the new information here. Altman’s history has been reported on exhaustively.

Few people have left openai over the year - safety abandonments, non profit status change, deception etc. but there is too much money involved. Here lies the actual rub. A lot of people involved and named in the article are reprehensible, kushners, saudis, Emiratis, PayPal mafia, vc folks with god complexes. But as long as they have the money, we have to dance to their tune.

We really really need a way for our society to be more equitable and hold these people responsible.

willis936 2 hours ago|
>PayPal mafia, vc folks with god complexes

HR would like you to tell the difference between the two photos.

vlovich123 6 hours ago||
> Chesky stayed in contact with the tech journalist Kara Swisher, relaying criticism of the board.

Ronan interesting writing as always. I’m curious if the role of the media as a pawn of the rich and powerful to sway perception and build narratives concerns you, especially given your personal experiences with this and the reporting you’ve done. Are there reforms you think reporters and/or news organizations should adopt to make sure access doesn’t become direct or indirect manipulation and how do you fight against that in your own reporting?

snakeboy 3 hours ago||
I usually use free archived versions to read mainstream journalism pieces. Seeing this convinced me to subscribe. I've always loved The New Yorker, and am happy to support serious longform journalism (and I know that Ronan is one of the best).

However, it's a shame that the only way to subscribe to the print version is to pay $260 upfront for the yearly subscription. Meanwhile the digital version is $1/week ($52 upfront) for one year, or even just $10 for one month.

ainch 12 hours ago||
Great piece. And a good excuse to read up on the use of diaeresis in English (eg. coördination, reëlection) to distinguish repeated vowels - I hadn't seen the New Yorker's usage before.
mplanchard 9 hours ago||
They also prefer some less common spellings. For instance, just noticed “vender” instead of “vendor” in an article this morning.
goodoldneon 11 hours ago||
It isn’t for all repeated vowels; only for when the 2 vowels don’t make a single sound. So “chicken coop” wouldn’t have a dieresis
stavros 11 hours ago|||
It would if the chickens formed a business structure that was owned and democratically controlled by its member-owners.
o0-0o 9 hours ago||
That, is likely co-op.
satvikpendem 8 hours ago||
That's the joke.
OJFord 11 hours ago|||
Unless it was a chicken coöp... One of few cases it actually resolves an ambiguity!
nerdyadventurer 5 hours ago||
Why would anyone trust him at all? their tech is used to bomb children, all of these rich folks are immoral only about their selfish gain.
jedberg 4 hours ago|
> their tech is used to bomb children

If you're talking about the school in Iran, that wasn't OpenAI. That was a Palantir system that pre-dates OAI by a few years, and was due to a bad entry in a spreadsheet, that showed the building as military housing. Which it was a few years ago.

180 people lost their lives because of bad data in spreadsheet, but not AI.

steinvakt2 3 hours ago|||
Many years ago. Not "a few years ago". Also you could make the sentence that 180 people lost their lives because of an evil war, of which USA and Israel are the aggressors. And we definitely don't talk enough about that part.
hnbad 1 hour ago||||
180 children lost their lives because of decisions by people in the US military (and ultimately the US government / the POTUS).

Let's not fall into the trap of adopting narratives created to waive accountability. The spreadsheet didn't launch a missile, the spreadsheet didn't authorize the strike and the spreadsheet didn't select the target.

Not to mention that "outdated spreadsheet" is also a hilariously anachronistic excuse for a war crime if you consider what kind of satellite technology the US has publicly acknowledged to have access to, let alone what kind of technology it is likely to have access to.

The difference between intentional premeditated murder and reckless endangerment resulting in a killing is not guilt and innocence but merely the severity and nature of a crime. Both demonstrate a callous disregard for the sanctity of human life, one just specifically seeks to extinguish it, the other merely accepts death and suffering as an acceptable outcome.

inemesitaffia 1 hour ago||
Please talk to your criminal defense lawyer.

This is nonsense.

Hikikomori 4 hours ago|||
Palantir was using anthropic and its use is being replaced by openai.
jedberg 2 hours ago||
Yes but not for the system that decided to bomb a school. That was a Palanter in house system.
Hikikomori 15 minutes ago||
Afaik the palantir system utilized ai.
basyt 1 hour ago|
he doesn't control his own future... chatgpt implodes in 18 months max depending upon how the strait of hormuz play goes...
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