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Posted by adrianhon 1 day ago

Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?(www.newyorker.com)
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adrianhon 1 day ago|
Archive link: https://archive.is/2026.04.06-100412/https://www.newyorker.c...
kazinator 1 hour ago||
I place my trust in Betteridge's Law of Headlines.
just_once 22 hours ago||
Amazing that this article and an actual comment from Ronan Farrow is this far down the list while...Scientists Figured Out How Eels Reproduce (2022) has 6 times the points.
dang 15 hours ago|
This thread set off a software penalty called the flamewar detector.* I turned that off as soon as I saw it.

(* This was predictable from the title, because the question in it was inevitably going to trigger an avalanche of crap replies. Normally we'd change the title to something less baity, and indeed the article is so substantive that it deserves a considerably better one. But I'm not going to change it in this case, since the story has connections to YC - about that see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....)

wolvoleo 3 hours ago||
https://archive.is/Cd0Yl
wk_end 15 hours ago||
This anecdote is so absurd it sounds like satire. This is the guy with the $23M mansion?

> Amodei’s notes describe escalating tense encounters, including one, months later, in which Altman summoned him and his sister, Daniela, who worked in safety and policy at the company, to tell them that he had it on “good authority” from a senior executive that they had been plotting a coup. Daniela, the notes continue, “lost it,” and brought in that executive, who denied having said anything. As one person briefed on the exchange recalled, Altman then denied having made the claim. “I didn’t even say that,” he said. “You just said that,” Daniela replied.

satvikpendem 6 hours ago||
Well they did indeed have a coup so looks like Altman was right.
simoncion 14 hours ago|||
He's a liar and untrustworthy. Based on their public statements, that's a big part of why the board fired him.

Of course, (despite the fact that Altman previously publicly stated that it was very important that the board can fire him) he got himself unfired very quickly.

throw4847285 18 hours ago||
A new Ronan Farrow piece is a rare gift (and Marantz is no slouch). Can't wait to read this in the physical magazine when it arrives!
geokon 9 hours ago|
I hadn't heard of him before. The wiki article is worth a look

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronan_Farrow

It's got to be one of the most unusual biographies of a living person that I've ever come across. Nearly every sentence is a head-turner. If you made it up no one would believe you

cmiles8 3 hours ago||
It seems unlikely OpenAI can survive long term with Sam at the helm. Challenge is folks already realized that once and yet here we are.
mikkupikku 2 hours ago|
You come at the king, you best not miss. Unfortunately, having survived a coup, his odds of surviving the next have improved. Now he knows how they go, what to look for and how he might handle them. I wouldn't bet on him being kicked out, at least while OpenAI is still on top. If OpenAI stumbles and Anthropic or another starts to prevail, only then would I bet on Sam getting pushed out.
ambicapter 14 hours ago||
I didn't have the mental energy to read the whole thing but man the final paragraph is some really good writing. Way to tie it all in together.
krackers 12 hours ago|
The entire thing is a joy to read, you should really set aside some time to cleanse your palette in this age of LLM prose. I mean just look at this juxtaposition

>Altman continued touting OpenAI’s commitment to safety, especially when potential recruits were within earshot. In late 2022, four computer scientists published a paper motivated in part by concerns about “deceptive alignment,” in which sufficiently advanced models might pretend to behave well during testing and then, once deployed, pursue their own goals.

(plus it finally resolves the mystery of "what Ilya saw" that day)

Also since it wasn't stated clearly

>“the breach” in India. Altman, during many hours of briefing with the board, had neglected to mention that Microsoft had released an early version of ChatGPT in India

That was Sydney if I understand correctly.

HardwareLust 22 hours ago||
Of course he cannot be trusted. Anyone whose motivation is based on greed is by nature untrustworthy.
throwway120385 15 hours ago||
Even if your motivation is some utopian vision of the future, you should not be trusted. Utopia is a thought experiment in a philosophy of living taken too far, not something to be reached for earnestly.
dns_snek 5 hours ago||
Why is it that criticism of people's insatiable greed for wealth and power often gets dismissed with this thought-terminating cliche about utopias?

Desire to live in a society that's less greedy, that rewards compassion and punishes sociopathy is completely valid. We should be pursuing that earnestly because survival of our species depends on it. The people in charge are so drunk on wealth and power that they would rather drive our entire species off a cliff than sacrifice even 10% of their effectively bottomless wealth.

But instead of criticizing our current philosophy that's actively being taken too far and threatens to destroy us, you criticize people who express their frustration with this state of affairs.

davebren 9 hours ago|||
Not just the greed. The whole AI is so dangerous that we must be the ones to build it to save humanity, and then gaslighting yourself and everyone around you into believing that your language model is AGI. This is some weird detached from reality cult behavior.
kortex 8 hours ago||
Complete hearsay, but I struck up a convo with someone who had spent a few hours drinking around a campfire with him and a few others at burning man, prior to GPT3's popularity. Apparently he was utterly convinced in his pivotal role to shepherd in a new era with AI, to the point where it got really messianic and culty. He didnt recall much else other than just being really weirded out by the dude.
davebren 8 hours ago||
The AI CEOS and most of their employees are in the same place as that guy. They're just in a more professional context and will be careful not to let their delusions of grandeur look too insane.

I remember watching the fitness function improve while my neural net learned to recognize characters for a project I did in school, and there was something about it that felt powerful. I guess we've always had that with the machines we imbue that have any sort of decision making "intelligence", but mix that with taking psychedelics and you have an interesting cocktail.

hellojimbo 13 hours ago||
lol thats like 99% of planet earth, including the animals
MegagramEnjoyer 9 hours ago||
no it isn't lol
latentframe 6 hours ago|
It’s less about trusting one person but more about the structure indeed AI is concentrating capital and compute and talent into a few hands so we’ve seen this before with railroads, oil, semiconductors. It brings innovation and also pricing power and political influence.
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