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Posted by jilles 10 hours ago

Cloudflare Email Service(blog.cloudflare.com)
374 points | 172 commentspage 3
AnonC 6 hours ago|
> Everyone already has an email address, which means everyone can already interact with your application or agent. And your agent can interact with anyone.

That’s a huge assumption unless you exclude several countries where people have a phone number but not really an email address (or even if they do, they may not know what an email address is) and exclude many very old (say, 70+) people who wouldn’t know what email is or what their email address is.

Moving on, I assumed the title meant the launch of a new consumer email service or platform. Reading the announcement, it’s not. That was disappointing to me.

tracker1 5 hours ago|
It is a new customer email service/platform... analogous to AWS SES for being able to send emails. They also have a baseline web email application.

That said, would be nice if CF offered an analog to gmail/m365 email, contacts and calendars as a service to go along side the application access. As it is, I'd probably use a subdomain for service based emails, separate from user emails if using this service.

VikingCoder 9 hours ago||
$0.35 per 1,000 outbound emails. Unlimited inbound emails.

How's that compare?

tom1337 9 hours ago||
AWS SES is 10ct per 1000 emails (same price for inbound + outbound) but you also need to pay for attachments etc.
Computer0 58 minutes ago||
What is the minimum monthly amount though?
sammy2255 9 hours ago||
Where did you find the pricing page? I can't find it anywhere
tom1337 9 hours ago||
https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/pri...
sammy2255 9 hours ago||
Thanks, hiding the pricing under a submenu called "Platform" is an .. interesting design choice
ksajadi 7 hours ago||
I think this is going to be a really good service: the service can be used easily with Workers making it super easy to not only send transactional emails but use it for forms embedded in Pages. I am very much looking forward to using this.

However, I still think AWS SES is the gold standard of deliverability because of their constant monitoring of your reputation (bounces etc). I always combine it with SendOps (https://sendops.dev/) for easy setup and deep analytics to avoid those issues.

edsimpson 7 hours ago||
I wish they had developed the open source Inbox into a consumer hosted email service for users. It would have been nice to see more competition with Google and Microsoft.
rc_kas 3 hours ago|
Yeah I had thought this was what they were building when I first heard they had an email project. I guess not.
aaronbrethorst 7 hours ago||
I am so excited for this. I’ve used Amazon SES begrudgingly for years and have wanted a better UI and easier routing level automation.
bob1029 6 hours ago||
I'm having a hard time figuring out if I could use this as a replacement for something like AWS WorkMail or E365. The "Agentic" inbox looks really nice, but is this intended for humans to use? I am really confused due to the marketing hype.
pradn 7 hours ago||
How much do existing services trust new email service providers? It would seem to be an uphill battle for Cloudflare to start a new service. It's easy to automate from the start, meaning it's easier to send spam. I suppose reputation is not simply based on the domain the email comes from?
efalcao 6 hours ago|
Hi, I work on this team at Cloudflare. We've been sending email for years via our free email routing product and email sending is built on top of the same infrastructure, code and knowledge.
tracker1 5 hours ago||
I hope you've (your org) been able to curate something resembling higher level contacts with Microsoft. They seem to be the single largest email provider that consistently has deliverability issues.
_pdp_ 8 hours ago|
Good! However, ...

Sending and receiving is in my mind the easy part. The hardest part is to make this work with actual AI agents. This is the same problem as with sub-agent communication because you need to implement all kinds of additional fictionality to ensure the agent is not just responding for no good reason, go into loops, etc.

My $0.02 from experience.

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