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Posted by ColinWright 19 hours ago

Isaac Asimov: The Last Question (1956)(hex.ooo)
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BoneShard 6 hours ago|
in the same vein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA
reader_x 15 hours ago||
Love this story.

On this read, I noticed Multivac answers 7x adding a few more words, maybe to imply progress toward its final answer:

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

THERE IS INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER. (4x)

LET THERE BE LIGHT!

elhosots 13 hours ago||
When i first read this story as a teenager in 1971 it started me on the road to atheism. Im very thankful to dr asimov not only for his great science fiction but his chemistry teachings as well
bilsbie 16 hours ago||
I tell my kids, there’s a God out there for everyone.

The last question God might be for you If you’re super rational and are really into technology.

Belief in God is like a supermarket. Once you decide to enter you’re probably going to find something that works for you.

wat10000 13 hours ago||
How does this fit with those of us who found one, then later on decided it was silly and gave up the whole idea?
bilsbie 11 hours ago||
Good question. Perhaps you found the wrong one?

I mean there’s such a wide selection you can even believe in simulations these days.

Or if that’s still too much there’s always the Pascal’s wager God. Still better than nothing.

TuringTest 10 hours ago|||
I find Pascal's wager is of the same nature as Aquinas' Five Ways to prove God, or accelerationists about the inevitability of a Singularity: believing that your own rational argument can be the basis to prove a fact about reality merely because it feels internally consistent.

Needless to say, I don’t find them at all convincing. This 'nothing' is much better than catching unconvincing unneeded supernatural entities.

wat10000 9 hours ago||
The Wager doesn't attempt to prove God, it merely states that you might as well worship, because the cost is small and the potential payoff is huge.

It falls apart because, based on what's actually known, there's no reason to think worshipping might be the thing that condemns you to hell, and not doing so gets you into heaven, rather than the other way around.

wat10000 11 hours ago|||
Why bother, though? What does trying to believe in this ill-defined entity do for me?
fellowniusmonk 14 hours ago||
The funny thing is this, let's say that an entity is outside of time, an entity that maps 1:1 in every practical way to the theists God.

Putting aside the bidirectional issues of non-interaction, what if mankind, or the universes collection of agents (if there are others and we interact with them) at some future point manages to create a supercomputer or entity in a substrate that exists outside of our time in the causal sense.

As long as we don't apocalypse ourselves or self destruct or get distracted from self preservation and miss the asteroid that ends us - we end up bringing this thing in our imagination to reality, just like all the other stuff we imagined and subsequently made.

Maybe God is real we just haven't made it yet.

This is all imagination of course, a fun thought about possibilities, humans tend to make the things they imagine and desire if it's actually possible.

winrid 15 hours ago||
My favorite Sci-Fi AI is probably in Larry Niven's World of Ptavvs, the "brain board". It's not covered in much depth but I like it because it's basically vibe coding GPT3.5 from 1966:

> He read, "Time to recharge battery:" followed by the spiral hieroglyph, the sign of infinity.

> Thud, said the brain. Kzanol read, "Re-estimate of trip time to Thrintun:" followed by a spiral.

At the brain board he typed: "Compute a course for any civilized planet, minimum trip time. Give trip time."

...

Thud! The screen said, "No solution."

Nonsense! The battery had a tremendous potential, even after a hyperspace jump it must still have enough energy to aim the ship at some civilized planet. Why would the brain...?

Then he understood. The ship had power, probably, to reach several worlds, but not to slow him down to the speed of any known world. Well, that was all right. In his stasis field Kzanol wouldn't care how hard he hit. He typed: "Do not consider decrease of velocity upon arrival. Plot course for any civilized planet. Minimize trip time."

The answer took only a few seconds. "Trip time to Awtprun 72 Thrintun years 100.48 days."

sprior 13 hours ago||
I saw this at a planetarium show when I was young, I think it was at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. It has always stuck with me.
grimgrin 17 hours ago||
okay so i'll be the sole commenter of: hex.ooo is an incredible domain name to me, maybe because i dig its UI, but certainly just in general

didn't know about ooo, maybe because it's not available on namecheap!

criddell 16 hours ago|
It's an awesome name.

If you go up one level, you can see this story is one entry in a great library of stuff:

https://hex.ooo/library/

zabzonk 18 hours ago||
In a similar vein: https://calumchace.com/favourite-relevant-sf-short-story/
viktorcode 11 hours ago||
Curiously, that describes cyclic universe hypothesis by dr. Penrose pretty well
RajT88 17 hours ago|
Somehow never read this one. But did write a short story ~20 years ago with a similar arc. I guess reading a lot of Asimov and Clarke and others will do that to you.
ghaff 17 hours ago|
You should. It's short and it's one of Asimov's best.
RajT88 16 hours ago||
I did! That is how I know the arc is similar.
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