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Posted by nkurz 2 days ago

Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen(asteriskmag.com)
639 points | 420 commentspage 5
Fnoord 15 hours ago|
After severe cramps once when I had to use a lot of ibuprofen (dental surgery / wisdom tooth) I now only use ibuprofen with a stomach protector to avoid stomach cramps, H. Pylori, and reflux.

Acetaminophen is part of ECA stack weight loss formula, while article says not OK with fasting. Either way, more safe solutions are known these days.

chermi 4 hours ago||
What about cox-2 like celoxib? Chronic pain for 15 years checking in.
thisisauserid 6 hours ago||
Sort of mentioned in one of the side notes:

Acetaminophen is the only medication of its kind approved for infants under six months because the liver develops faster than the kidneys.

throwawayffffas 10 hours ago||
To the author, my guy, you are clearly not an endocrinologist stop pretending you are, and trust the people that study these things for a living.

Not only you can't take more than 4 grams of paracetamol per day, you must not take it for more than 3 days straight, it says so on the leaflet.

Biochemistry and medicine are hard and complex, all the quacks out there that preach snake oil treatments went down the path of thinking their domain specific knowledge in random domains somehow transfers to medicine it does not.

sobjornstad 4 hours ago|
Is this comment in the wrong place? The article is literally about how the medical establishment gives good advice on acetaminophen and ibuprofen, but it's not getting through to people.
rXwubXUGAm 10 hours ago||
In my personal experience, paracetamol hardly does anything when it comes to alleviating fever symptoms. Like I'm not sure whether I'd be able to distinguish it from placebo. I always default to ibuprofen and the difference it makes is like night and day. I only take it like a handful of times a year and usually no more than 1000mg a day so I'm hoping I'll be fine.
cue_the_strings 8 hours ago||
It is a damn shame bordering conspiracy that metamizole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamizole, known as Analgin in eastern Europe and the Balkans, apparently also India) is not more widely available in the west. It's literally a wonder drug, the only non-narcotic (hence non-addictive) that actually relieves serious pain (including post-op) pain in my experience.

Since I've had a fair share of it in my life so far (more than 1kg of it so far, in total), and I investigated the disparaging studies and they are definitely not convincing at all; more recent ones somewhat absolve it (check the Wikipedia page).

I've never had any side effects from it, and I don't know anyone who did, unlike for any other painkiller (diclofenac, ketoprofen, ibuprofen, acetaminophen / paracetamol).

It is a medicine where I'm almost 100% sure the studies against it are intentional sabotage by pharma companies, and the vigor and persistence this is done with is really telling (lots of doctors and pharmacists in my extended family, including in regulatory bodies). The campaign against it never ends.

01100011 13 hours ago||
The article doesn't touch on it, but from what I've read NSAIDs like ibuprofen also slow healing. I have also read, but am unsure how reliable this is, that they can harm the remodeling process during healing and lead to chronic pain.

That said, I've found great relief at times taking a moderately large dose of ibuprofen for several days to break what seems to be a cycle of persistent inflammation. YMMV I guess.

fulafel 11 hours ago||
Could they safer and/or higher dose acetaminophen pills if they included NAC?
krupan 14 hours ago|
I once read that if acetaminophen were introduced today it 100% would require a prescription because of how dangerous an overdose is.

Unrelated, but it feels like an oversight that this article said nothing about how both acetaminophen and ibuprofen reduce fevers. They aren't used solely for reducing pain.

jeroenhd 12 hours ago|
I kind of doubt that, to be honest, given how much more effective and less directly damaging it is during normal use compared to NSAIDs.

I find it interesting that people take these as fever reduction mechanisms. Fevers are a defence mechanism, not just an inconvenience. Maybe it makes more sense in places without decent workers' rights (like having a limited amount of sick days you need to manage), but it feels weird for me to actively harm your body's defence mechanisms unless you're in "you should see a doctor" territory already.

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