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Posted by pavel_lishin 3 days ago

The Joy of Folding Bikes(blog.korny.info)
100 points | 60 comments
tolerance 3 hours ago|
I'm all for more submissions about manually-operated things on wheels.

Like "Rediscovering the Handcart"

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2026/04/rediscovering-the-...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47873192

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47870694

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47862913

grayrest 4 hours ago||
I ride a Reise & Mueller Birdy Mk3 mostly because I think folding bikes are neat and the Birdy has my favorite fold. The other rationale was that I wanted a nice bike I'd never have to lock up outside in NYC. The intention was to use it as a commuter since not spending on the subway would pay for it pretty quickly but shortly after I got it I started working remote so I've only done commutes on it for a couple weeks of gig jobs and it's mostly a recreational bike.

I went through an extended project to make it faster and wound up with a loop handlebar for body position, replaced the wheelset to move from 355 to 406 for tire selection and did the drivetrain at the same time to accommodate a 9-32 cassette. Between the wheels and the sub-11 tooth sprockets I can pedal up to ~26mph instead of ~20mph on the stock setup (good enough) and the low end is about the same. It doesn't perform like a race bike but it's pretty close to an endurance road bike. I do 20 mile rides a couple times a week on it and I've done a couple centuries.

The Birdy is my main bike but I'm a folding and recumbent enthusiast in general. The addition of the fold or moving the cranks in front of the rider means the obvious solution diamond frame doesn't work and I like seeing the creativity of the solutions. I've also owned a Xootr Swift that I gave away to my nephews, a Bike Friday Sat-R-Day folding recumbent for riding slowly in the parks, and a Baron Optima lowracer recumbent that I prefer for rides over 90 minutes.

YawningAngel 4 hours ago||
I don't fault OP for this, but it's pretty frustrating to me as someone who's quite attached to his non-folding bike that the main benefit of folding bikes is that, unlike regular bikes, they aren't banned from pretty much all public transport
tokioyoyo 7 minutes ago||
Yeah, this definitely wouldn't fly in any country where a lot of people bike and use transit. Tokyo metro would be hell if full sized bikes would be allowed.
hamdingers 1 hour ago|||
Thankfully uncommon in North America. Growing up in Los Angeles where every bus has racks and every train car has bike spots, I was shocked the first time I visited SF and found I couldn't bring it on Muni trains.

I know DC bans them and Boston/NYC/Toronto have limited hours, but every other city with a metro seems to welcome them.

mh2266 1 hour ago||
NYC subway allows bikes 24/7, only MNR and LIRR have time restrictions
Neywiny 4 hours ago|||
I remember one time on the bus a commuter had his full sized bike in the bus. This was a full sized with plenty of space bus, so it wasn't really in the way at all. The bike rack was full and it was a summer day. So probably the guy figured he may as well just try bringing it on instead of waiting another hour for a bus and hoping there's space.

Anyway one busybody got all uppity. But the driver and rest of the passengers didn't care. So it was fine.

afavour 4 hours ago|||
I understand the frustration but also bikes take up a lot of space. When someone brings one on the NYC subway at rush hour it’s definitely an inconvenience.
Gigachad 3 hours ago||
I feel like the failure here is that it gets so packed that there isn't space for a bike. Because it's not just bikes impacted here. If you can't fit a bike, you can't fit a wheelchair, you can't fit a pram, you don't have space for someone who needs to sit down, or someone who can't handle being pressed in at all sides by other passengers.

It's a wrong allocation of resources where we decide everyone can have 4 empty seats to drive to work but we can't fit 1 person and a bike on PT.

massysett 1 hour ago|||
The thing is, everyone can't have 4 empty seats to drive to work in New York City. There's only so much space on the streets and in the bridges and tunnels, and now there's a congestion charge on top of that.
jmm5 2 hours ago|||
Pretty much any decent mass transit system in the world is packed at rush hour. The whole advantage over private vehicles comes from the fact that people take up less space.
Gigachad 1 hour ago||
I agree it's a fairly common issue but I feel like it's not an impossible issue to solve. A person and a bike is still massively smaller than a person in an SUV. The system is basically designed with just enough capacity to barely work. But I feel like if we really wanted PT to be the obvious best choice it should be provisioned a bit over the least possible capacity.
grayrest 4 hours ago||
This depends on the metro. NYC generally doesn't care for the trains/subways so they only make a difference on buses.
cheschire 2 hours ago||
Surprised more people aren’t aware of Montague.

https://www.montaguebikes.com/

Magi604 4 hours ago||
The article touched on it, and I agree, the biggest benefits for me are the portability and storability.

I can easily fit my folding bike into my car trunk, and very easily fit another one in the back seat. This enables you to drive to the start of a distant cycling route without having to deal with bike racks behind or on top of your car. So much less friction to you just going somewhere and cycling around.

And the small size means I can skip the common bike storage in my complex and store it in my apartment and it doesn't take up as much space as a full-sized bike. In my city, like most major cities, bike thievery is rampant. And if they can't steal your bike, they strip it of parts.

There are some drawbacks though. You can't really use them for hauling heavy loads, so forget bicycle touring or pulling a little trailer for kids or other things. They are also quite slow. And maybe some models have lots of gears, but the ones I checked out (in my admittedly limited search) did not, so they are not suited for very hilly routes.

I got mine used for $200 off FB Marketplace, it was in great condition and ready to ride. It is some generic brand that was sold in Walmarts a few years ago and I could not find any other information on it. I don't really care though. It got me out and cycling again!

jodrellblank 3 hours ago|
> "You can't really use them for hauling heavy loads, so forget bicycle touring or pulling a little trailer for kids or other things"

Eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzRqKP0XmhQ - Brompton with Burley Travoy trailer while the guy moves house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocMRuUBUFrU - Bromtpon with Cyclone trailer while grocery shopping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvBA1K8oFmQ - Brompton with child trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOH3wEB0pS8 - with different child trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waW1wq07JsA - Brompton with child seat adapter in front of the rider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV60S7ma4d4 - Brompton with child seat on the back.

eCa 4 hours ago||
I know it's not for everyone, but it is also a reasonable touring bike if done within its constraints. I've probably done closer to 40 days on my 16" Brompton, longest was a two-week 1000km ride. On the topic of leaving the bike out-of-sight: In those 40 days I've left it locked a total of 20 minutes, otherwise it comes with me into restaurants, supermarkets, public restrooms, hotel rooms..

The biggest downsides are speed and climbing ability. 80k or so has been a reasonable max distance on tour (I've done one 100k day, it was long) and I wouldn't take it to the Alps.

Like the OP, I run Schwalbe Marathon Plus which has been good. But I have had one catastrophic puncture after riding over a particularly nasty piece of glass that cut straight through the tire. After that I bring a folding backup tire.

jodrellblank 3 hours ago|
> "a reasonable touring bike if done within its constraints"

Yes; for example, YouTuber Susanna Thornton does bikepacking and wild-camping on her Brompton: https://www.youtube.com/@susannathornton/videos

and Darin's Adventure Chronicles: https://www.youtube.com/@darinsadventurechronicles/videos

Many other one-off videos exist too under searches for brompton bikepacking and brompton wildcamp.

throw0101c 1 hour ago||
Also:

* https://www.youtube.com/@2Bikes4Adventure/videos

dannyfreeman 35 minutes ago||
I used to own a dahon that I got from a guy on craigslist back in like 2011/2012. Incredible bike. After moving further out of the city for cheaper rent I sold it to help pay rent. Really wish I could have kept it.
rjh29 4 hours ago||
They're obviously great for commuting.

For general use, they are in theory thief-proof because you can take them everywhere with you. The downside is they're expensive so you HAVE to take them everywhere with you. Leave them out and they'll get stolen. For that reason I think the happiest I've been is with a dirt cheap bike in Japan. Didn't even lock it properly (just a key built into the frame) and could park it outside any old shop or restaurant for hours. Super convenient.

shric 4 hours ago|
I have owned a AU$7,000 (US$5,000) ebike in Sydney, Australia for a few years and have parked it everywhere without worrying about it getting stolen.

It has a built in lock that blocks the front spokes, an alarm and I use a $200 chain lock around the frame to fix it to something.

MattSayar 1 hour ago|||
I taped an Airtag-equivalent to one of my bikes as well
Gigachad 3 hours ago|||
For me, just having a $7,000 bike parked on the street would be too stressful even if it didn't get stolen. I've had bikes stolen in Australia and there is basically nothing you can do about it. The thieves have hoodies, masks, and battery powered grinders that will cut any lock.

The only defense is storing your bike inside. And then you get karens on the owners corp whinging that you aren't allowed to take bikes inside. Who also don't give two shits when your bike gets stolen from the basement bike storage.

hahahacorn 2 hours ago||
I felt this way until I bought full coverage bike insurance.

For my $250 deductible I basically just get a nice upgrade to the latest version / a brand new ebike for ~$200 / year.

The peace of mind alone with insurance (and a really nice lock) have fully mitigated this for me. I've been leaving my ~$2k ebike locked up all over San Francisco for ~3 years without it being stolen. (My first beater bike was a POS locked up in my apartments secure bike storage and it was stolen after I owned it for ~9 days so I figured I couldn't double down on the bad luck).

russellbeattie 4 minutes ago||
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mh2266 1 hour ago|
a bit nitty, but "never get punctures" is just an attribute of the tires, not the bike. if you stick Gatorskins on a Tarmac SL8, you'll also never get punctures. but that's like putting tractor tires on a sports car, and you'll be slower and have a less comfortable ride than you would with GP5Ks.
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